In Australia, both the Labor and liberal, --- governments do worry me. On one hand we have a nutter named Albanese, and he wants to see mostly solar and wind-- turbine energy, despite the fact that both cause environment damage, and the liberals want nuclear energy. Nuclear power is becoming a bit of an issue in America. Its costing too much, and some plants aren't working well. It would be the same in Australia. Would cost billions to build them. Waste storage a problem. Would take thousands of years to break down. Potential harm to the environment. Too costly. Neither party has a good solution to our energy needs. Until we find a more friendly power source, I think we therefore should stick to reliable coal and gas.

Bla blah blah. The environmental negative impact of battery factories far exceeds the benefits of driving pointless expensive electric vehicles

If CO2 was the real cause of changers to our environment then it would mean that it should affect our plants ,our insects, etc. We would have rising seas. Getting much hotter in all the countries. If people only checked the temperature and realised it's really not changed much. Even if there were some truth to CO2 rising, then it doesn't mean that it's driving the temperature changes or ecology on our planet. It should have gotten worse by now. But we don't get heatwaves in winter. They said it would! I'm still awaiting for that day! Haha

I've done some study, and I don't rely on mainstream media, nor do I believe some scientists. These people are often not independent and the government's pay the income or salary. The world isn't heating up, you need to go back and do your research better. The temperature has remained pretty much stable. You will always get floods, excessive heat, earth quakes, colder temperatures, etc. No matter what you say , and others think, the world is not warming up. We should have had higher temperatures in our cooler seasons, and when is that expected to take place? 10, 40, 100? Why isn't it happening where I live? It's been more cooler and not warmer. We are due for another ICE AGE. Last happened over 10,000 years back. Do you want to speed up the process? You sure as hell would not want to be around when it does. It will affect everyone. CO2 is good for the planet. We need it to grow trees, plants, etc. Climate is mostly based on false computer models and not real hard science. GETYOURFACTSRIGHT! I'm not changingy views. I completely trust my instincts on this.

I cannot believe that you do not believe. An excess of Carbon dioxide production over its removal from the atmosphere causes retaining of heat by the atmosphere. Increased absorption of CO2 by the oceans, lakes and rivers acidifies the water causing other effects. Find out!

Really? It's funny but I haven't heard of any serious mass evacuations from those smaller islands yet. Do your research a bit better in future! What they are probably experiencing is natural and changeable weather. No difference to aus. We get floods and drought. And don't forget most of them islands are tropical. Such weather is to be expected. I'm sure they had the same issues going on 💯 s of years back. And if they looked after their land better, more trees, less pollution, and control population.

Government control

Who are we supposed to believe? Some scientists believe that global warming is real, and others think that it is nature which do you believe? when science can't prove it either way you have to decide for yourself what is really happening.

I think thermal wave energy might be considered. They have got it on king island. Edited 18-Mar-23 07:34am

Why renewables can’t save the planet | Michael Shellenberger | TEDxDanubia Environmentalists have long promoted renewable energy sources like solar panels and wind farms to save the climate. But what about when those technologies destroy the environment? In this provocative talk, Time Magazine “Hero of the Environment” and energy expert, Michael Shellenberger explains why solar and wind farms require so much land for mining and energy production, and an alternative path to saving both the climate and the natural environment – nuclear energy. Must see! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-yALPEpV4wEdited 03-Mar-23 16:31pm

Keep us at home in smart cities not using our desired cooking heating ir cooling methods so the fuse only belong to the 3 percent and we stay slaves if not huddled into camps like smart cities

The reason is great profits to be made by the greediest people in the world through investments made for items like offshore wind turbines. The Earth experiences dramatic changes every 25k years and man can do nothing to control these changes.

Or a potential ice age. Not in our lifetime probably tho. But its forecast to come again one day, most likely a longtime from now.

I'm way more concerned about the shifting poles and the havoc that will cause. There's no doubt that the main stream media are propergating the climate 'crisis' narrative.

If I want to find out about climate change I talk to myself for expert advice. You see I am always right in my eyes. I thought I was wrong last Tuesday but I was mistaken.

Climate change from the human pollution aspect is grossly exaggerated as it's only like 3% since the industrial age 2 centuries ago. But we do need to care for the planet more or else pollution will increase and kill the planet over time. The earth goes through hot and cold cycles. Heard of an ice age well the sun gets hotter and melts the ice, warms the earth which common sense dictates that it will alter weather patterns. Then when ever the heat cycle peaks the earth will start to cool and head into another ice age and the cycle Continues though spanning very long time periods.Edited 15-Dec-22 07:24am

%100 bogus.

Im glad i dont think like you do! There is no man made climate change, im not going to argue about this anymore. Its a pointless disscussion. The CO2 is essential for the environment. It keeps the ice ages away. If you lower it then we will eventually get a new ice age. That will wipe out millions of people and not much will grow. I have no concerns about any fake climate change. Science has said its not an issue.

Guys, let’s get something clear, it has been decided by the people that decide these things that the term ‘climate change’ refers only to climate change that occurs due to the activity of human beings and not to climate variations that are the result of nature or processes related to physical events in nature. So please, let’s stop with the red herrings and other invalid augments that the deniers try to use to try to convince themselves and others that the truth is way to inconvenient and overwhelming for them to accept and deal with. The evidence is now overwhelming, and they can stick their collective heads in the sand and think they don’t have to worry about what they can’t accept, but in the end, climate change will kick their butts just as hard as it will all the others that know the truth… Unless some kind of miracle happens and humans can, just for once, and for the most important reason in the history of their existence, work together to solve this threat to their existence, and most other living things on this planet today, then the planet is screwed for quite few million years. Seriously though, judging but the number of deniers here, the pathetic illogical augments they put forward and their inability to process basic facts and evidence in a way to draw valid conclusions, I don’t hold out much hope it will happen if they are representative of the views of the broader human population…

https://www.unocha.org/themes/el-ni%C3%B1o/el-ni%C3%B1o-and-la-ni%C3%B1a Is a gd site, but even states scientists are divided if climate change is responsible for the changing & frequencies of La Nina/ El Nino effects occurring. Wud make sense tho..

Cilmate change is real.People need to do what they can to help the environment.

Your comments are even more ridiculous than that last person who commented. I've read stuff that the icecaps aren't melting. No, climate has always changed and always will. Co2 is a necessary environmental ingredient for the planet and it stops us getting a colder planet. Floods in Australia are simply due to la-nina, and not any sups climate change, so get your facts right buster. . Not everyone can afford solar panels. I will keep using the same energy sources that i grew up with and you or the government wont tell me how to fkn live! Do you drive a car, use air conditioning, use a plane, etc, or have? Go look in the mirror then before you judge others and how they choose to live. You are another paranoid moron!

I cannot believe some of the bull being spun by the sceptics here. Has anyone seen what's been going on overthe last 30 years in Asia? Has anyone noticed China India with populations of a billion plus who want the same living standards you have? Man made climate change is here. 1 in 100 year floods now occur more often, the ice caps are receding at an unprecedented rate sea levels are rising. Droights last longer and longer than ever before. Look at what happenede in the US this year. Stop kidding yourselves. Do your part. Next time you turn on that heater do you really need it on or just put on another jumper. Throw some solar panels on your roof. Get a heat pump hot water service. Save our planet. Man is in control of his own destiny. If we all do a little it serves as doing a lot.

Its happening alright but I remain unconvinced that it is manmade. The earth has been changing for years

My question is this, can man control an earthquake, the answer is no he can't, it's the same with climate anyone who thinks he can has to be an egotistical maniac, man can barely control himself so ow in the world can he control climate.

Don't stir up all the loonies Zing!

i got to give you credit Zing, you can really draw the boogie men out of the woodwork,, nice old poll bring back, yes the earth does run in cycles, except man in the last 200 years has/is speeding up the warming cycle exponentially,, but y'all carry on calling people names, me i don't givearatzarse as i am 76 yr old and will soon be gone away from what man has/is destroying,, have a fun day y'all ;-)) Edited 20-Oct-22 12:48pm

As i have said before Earth has cooled and heated for eons. Ever since it was created.

No. People like myself are not idiots, and its people like yourself who never research other scientists and their opinions at all. Get off your TV, and further more... go to a library and read some old books on climate and weather temperature .. over the past 50 years or so, get back to me when you have some informed facts... insead of second hand info. In Australia at least, its not been warming up significantly at all . Carbon or CO2 is something all trees and plants thrive on. Even if there is some truth to any warming and i doubt it, its natural. Scientific fraud more like it.. You're just another sheep who believes anything they are told! You can't change my mind, sorry, unless the temperature starts to rise alot and consistent, and the icebergs start melting everywhere, then im sure im right. As many on here have also said. Move on fool!

Energy prices to rise in Australia up to 35 percent more. Some of this is due to the carbon increase the federal government will be imposing on the energy companies. And look who will be paying the extra increases, US!

The push for zero carbon is a big factor in them creating a climate crisis. Does anyone remember when it used to be 'global warming'? And then 'climate change' and now all you hear is 'climate crisis'. The earth's natural cycles create change. Always has, always will. Make no mistake, this is only ever been about the elite's desire to control the planet and us.

I hope it never happens here. We have a greenish government called Labor so i bet they have something like that in mind.

I heard on the radio that NZ government wants to start charging farmers a carbon tax on their cattle when they burp and fart off. I thought it was april fools day when i heard that! Apparently if it goes ahead... farmers can put the extra cost onto consumers Sick, sick.Edited 11-Oct-22 22:53pm

Let's get this straight - cause words are important! Absolutely no scientist worth their salt thinks that climate change is bogus. Evidence of climate change is abundant in geological records. Some scientists argue recent climate change has not been caused by Humans.... which I think is the point you are trying to make? Realistically...they are idiots. The data is absolutely supportive of humans causing recent changes. Guaranteed they have an alternative agenda they are pushing ($$$$)

MONEY!

There has been some nutters in Sydney over the past week...they were protesting over Climate Change, and disturbing the public and traffic. No doubt the police are sick of their childish antics.Edited 28-Jun-22 03:59am

I always laugh at cows' farting theory. What nonsense! Cows have been here for such a long time and they always have been farting no matter what fart they produce. If to feed cows with rubbish they will fart rubbish. What about humans farting? Many people eat rubbish and drink poison. More than 99 per cent of the gas that people pass consists of just nitrogen, oxygen, carbon dioxide, hydrogen, and methane. How is that not normal for cows to fart? Is that normal if the military experiment in the ocean with their bombs? No harm at all right? Is that normal if they dig the resources out of Earth to make new technologies and earn a huge profit? Is that normal that humans are connected to their phones, no one can live without them anymore, phones are like the extension of the hand. Or brain? How many wild animals are killed every day in different countries? I do think this should be the global law about wildlife. Hmmm, lots to think about, isn't it? Climate is always changing and always will change. They need to think about changes somewhere else, I guess. Anyway, I like less plastic around.

Don't know why people here are having a go at Zing for asking a question and creating an interesting discussion. Just because he is asking these questions doesn't believe that is what he thinks. As for the questions, I don't think there is any denying that we are contributing to the changing climate. Yes the Earth has been changing over millennia but we are accelerating it. By burning fossil fuels for energy we are releasing way too much carbon into the atmosphere, carbon which the earth had stored deep underground. And what sucks up this carbon and creates oxygen? The trees and plants that we also love to destroy for greed. I realise this is simplistic but I'm not a scientist. I just think that if we could eliminate using these fuels, rejuvenate our forests and create greener living spaces in urban areas it would help quite a lot.

The earth has been changing since the beginning so this is a way of increasing taxes and the government is better of. No matter what is done by humans may delay it but thats all.

I wonder what people would have said long ago when the word climate change was never heard, and if the Bible is correct about the 40 days and 40 nights of rain, Oh that's right they Blamed GOD, A Punishment they said, maybe that's what climate change is all about, I mean to say there was a lot of trees, to soak up pollution caused by wood fire burners, and the farms that we are told, cause pollution, So I think let it be what will be will be

The world would be a better place if they just let us live and stop telling us wtf to do Im not even going to let the government tell me or make me feel guilty over something I have not done. They can go to hell! I did not vote them idiots in.Edited 08-Jun-22 23:26pm

mmmmmm

Stalin once said if you tell a lie make it a big lie because people will believe a big lie. Darwin came up with the theory of evolution, and it was only a theory as there has never been any proof. With the advances in DNA this theory has been blown out of the water and yet it is taught in schools as a fact. What did Darwin gain from what is a lie? Fame! Climate change is another lie that started as Global Warming but when it became evident that the world was not warming it was changed to climate change. The CSIRO know it isn't a fact but if they announce that the money tap will be turned off. Malcolm Turnbull pushes climate change, and why wouldn't he as he and his son are making a lot of money from green technologies. As with anything, follow the money. Just look at the money being made by people making and installing solar panels, electric cars and batteries. And all this rubbish needs replacing every 10 or 20 years. It is one huge con and many people have been sucked in either because they didn't really think about it or are too afraid to disagree. How on earth can mankind change the weather? There is the sun and moon with all their effects, undersea volcanoes spewing hot water that heats our oceans altering the currents which effects the rain we get. Climate change has been blamed for the recent floods which is totally incorrect, they were caused by El Nino which has been known by the South Americans for thousands of years. People should ask questions and not simply accept the rubbish pushed as FACT.

I think we should do more to reduce pollution, and take better care of the planet, but there has always been changes to the climate.

the earth has had several ice ages, climate change is real but not new

no comment

It doesn't have to be a "lie" for it not to necessarily be true. There is a bias towards the thinking that takes on a life of its own. No reason other than the waves of the generations. Not everything is a conspiracy...sometimes it's just a popular misconception

I see,hear Fluff Daily on the News i think that is MASS CLIMATE CHANGE from the T.V

I'm sure that the Earth has been subject to varying climatic conditions since the dust cloud originally coalesced. I've also observed evidence of glacial activity within the greater Adelaide metropolitan area. I've also seen conclusive proof that areas of the Flinder's Ranges were part of the sea floor, What scares the bejesus's out of me is the rapid changes that have and are occurring in our weather patterns, the changed frequency and intensity of 'natural' disasters,,,the bushfires and the seemingly monthly 100 year floods on the eastern seaboard. Australia has always been a ' count country, of sunburnt country of droughts and flooding rains', but not 100 year floods every month like it has been this year

Climate changes and if mwe think back we had cold winters horrid summers n times of drought and rain it is what Australia is made of a land of drought n rain etc etc ..too me it is just as we all age we forget how it was

The climate is always changing it just depends on who is looking at things to how bad it is with each generation

Where is the extremes of weather in Australia? No rising heat. We had bad floods but that happens every so often. We had the Elnino effect. And they said that was due to climate. What can affect the weather changes is destroying or damage to land. Tree removals, and soil erosion,etc. That's got nothing to do with any greenhouse warming effect.

there is air pollution where there are countries with heavy industrial areas. As for change of climate that has occurred over centuries Why did Noah build his ark ??

Im glad im a Climate sceptic. All those who aren't need to stop using energy unless they have green power. Stop driving cars. Stop eating meat and fish. Prove it not talk the talk? If you really believe what you say? Or are just pretending to be concerned? Fo otherwise. Edited 08-Jun-22 19:12pm

My generation remembers the Ozone Holes scam. Some corporation made billions of dollars on replacing the older refrigirant gas in fridges and freezers. Then the researchers finally released information that ozone holes expand and shrink by themselves all the time over decades

One quarter of American kids don't believe in Climate change.. There's still hope for America yet...I guess! Smart kids!

I think greed. A way to loosen Joe blows wallet

I definitely believe the amount of plastic - especially in the oceans - is responsible for temperature change in the water and causes issues. Also continually cutting down trees in the metropolitan area is the cause of a lot of issues. I - too - have read up a lot on it and believe a lot of our issues with climate change (rising temps and lessening of rain or flooding) is MAN CREATED. There will always be a certain amount of naturally occurring changes but what we have now is very extreme.

Climate change is a total hoax. Don't believe it. There is a conspiracy behind it all. It is all about fear. To frighten everyone.

Im concerned our labor leftards government will shut down the mining industry. I have a relative who works in mining. Will we get higher electricity and gas ? Its already going through the roof.

Because we have a gullible generation, that believes everything on social media.

We have to becareful that we don't go too far. Do we want a world without few jobs? Australia became rich on mineral wealth. We just can't shut down whole industries because of a group of scientists and green nutters and political-correct politicans. Australia would go broke. And solar and windmills are not that reliable. We would not be able to use technology and do other things with out what we pull out of the ground. It won't last forever. Why we have it...we should use it. It's why we have become an advanced world. Don't knock the industrial age...its made many wealthy an and helped us.

The climate changes from season to season from one extreme to another. Nothing new. Am sick to death of all this hysteria and nonsense initiated by those alarmists and scaremongers. Shame on you Al Gore for starting this crap ......

It's happening BUT, it's mostly nature and nothing we do will stop it. Just go back through history and you'll see that I'm right.

The climate has never been constant anywhere in my lifetime predictions of weather are frequently wrong, tho with the available current technology are more accurate. However the current hype in climate change focuses on too few factors and should be questioned.It seems to me that it is a further " scare" being used to control competition in commerce by vested interests.

believe or not lots of money will be invested in new renewable energy.

I don't believe in Climate Change. The Earth is constantly changing, and all these scientists use "climate change" to scare people into thinking the planet is going to be completely destroyed in x amount of years. If all that was true, then Earth would have been destroyed when the dinosaurs went instinct. Plus, I would think a real change in climate would alter weather patterns and seasons all over the world.

I do my bit for the environment. I recycle and walk mostly, rather than use a car....or other transport....most of the time. Unlike most PEOPLE!. If the idiots on here are so concerned with the Climate change theory, then I suggest, you give up your creature comforts for the sake of the planet. Don't drive or take public transportation. Don't use electricity. Don't use any technology that uses up much energy. Fridges, stove, washing machine, etc. If you are really serious about climate change...then you can't do these things and expect not to have an impact. Stop being a hypocrite! Either do something or shut the heck up. Im sick of hearing about climate BS. everyday. Im not worried about the world ,only the fools that live in it. Im not anxious and distressed like a mad nutter, worrying myself about, what might or might not happen. Edited 08-Jun-22 17:11pm

Having heard it was as cold as this time currently way back in 1904 why would I believe in climate change? However, many scientists who wish to pursue their particular passion of study can continue with new grants of money if they say they are studying the effect of climate change on this or that. Take a walk down memory lane and see what the Thames River in London looked like when it was completely iced over and the food stalls you could skate up to on the edge of the river. There wasn't man made pollution in those days as it was prior to the Industrial Era and there was also less of a population on this earth. Perhaps the current population is the real problem?

Every thing changes including change it self. Now weather the change is being driven by mankind or the natural change is another argument

Just to make money and having to pay more for everything

"Some scientists" Which Climate Scientists exactly? Please supply information in relation to their research that states this is their findings ? And no anything quoted by Sky News does not count.

I don't listen to these so called scientists. Evidence is there if you care to look. The most important thing is what can be done to help people directly impacted by it.

“Some scientists” like who?

Unsure

In the beginning God created the earth and it was beautiful the only people who have caused this change are we humans who take what we want and never replace it.

Whether we believe what the scientists say or not makes no difference as reality is we have been taking from underground for all sorts of mining for many years and not putting nothing back. We have been clearing natural forests and rainforests for many years and not replacing.Everything on this earth has a meaning and process of the life cycle. If it’s gone then it changes the flow of things. Causing different weather patterns and severity of then, earthquakes, earth temperatures and water levels.

Im all for looking after the environment and saving our precious animals and plants, but fossil-fuels aren't the cause of the environment problems...its overpopulation and land clearing that is the cause. Also rubbish strewn in our oceans. Even the climate change scientists are missing the point on those issues. They always talk about temperature and fires and floods and so on and so on. These have always happened. Lol. It was warmer years back than it is now...and no one mentioned Climate changes then?

I guess its not hard to tell who that... crazy bitch , Helen.. voted for in the last election. She's a radical greenie. We have had a industrial age for a very long time...and no one was bleating about any Climate changes when I was growing up. Nor was there any schools teaching the subject. Its all a load of BS! Edited 08-Jun-22 15:04pm

I just came on and reading the stupid opinions of people like Helen and Roger, it makes me want to puke. The temperature had not changed much at all. And the proof is out there. Why would thousands disagree, and they are scientists? There is no real Climate change. Period! What ever had to the ozone layer? We never hear of that now. The Antarctic is not melting. Floods and fires always happen around the world. So that is claimed to be climate change? Hahahahaha. Funny as fuk!Edited 08-Jun-22 14:46pm

it IS MOTHER NATURE

97 % of the genius climate scientists that get 1000 predictions completely wrong every week ... And if you don't blindly agree with them the Greenies will get you fired from your University... " Global warming" ..Oh whoops that wasn't working...lets change it to " Climate change" and now we can use it as an excuse for every natural disaster..

If the climate change arguments are ever finally debunked, one consequence would be that the Greens would disappear forever. No bad thing in itself. They are shrill, they cherry pick the science that appears to support their arguments, & in many cases have no idea. An example was the 2019 bushfires which they blamed on climate change. The only part it had was in making the excessive fuel load which existed largely because of their determination to lock up public land, allow the fire trails to overgrow & the noxious weeds & feral animals to take hold, even drier than it need have been & far more plentiful. Wanna know how best to manage the land? Don't ask the Greens, ask our First Nations people..

All we can do it have some faith in scientists but try to work out their motivations for denial or acceptance. 97% of climate scientists state our climate is changing due to humans. Does anyone not understand how important that consensus it? So many people simply poo poo it but seriously what do they know about science, little lone, specific climate science? Natural variations do no explain it and I am sick of tired of half wits denying it who have no scientific understanding. This is highly technical stuff so go back to school before having an opinion. Ignorance pisses me off and the biggest bs is that the ignorant think they are informed. Morons!Edited 08-Jun-22 13:33pm

I think climate change is on the rise and their is a lot of people everywhee just like me who believe that also, I also believe that the climate change is part or large part of people getting sick and the cold or hot whether does not help at all. It makes the skin itch get hot and seem like their no air to breathe so climate change is on the rise next step find ways to combat it help make people better.

No comment

Who knows the truth. It’s out there but some say yes others say no. All I know it’s cold in Sydney and not getting any better if you believe the experts on tv. Watch or record all stations weather and different each one but stupid thing it all comes from the BOM

I believe climate change is real, and as David Attenborough says, we need to act now before it's too late.

I really do not know what to believe. It is a bit like, do you believe in Santa Claus! My husband goes off his rocker when he hears statements eg the recent bushfire/floods or whatever were caused by global warming. The statements are never, this has never happened before. They are always we have not had a bushfire/flood or whatever since a certain date. So we have had catastrophic events before. The last floods we had in Australia I heard someone say that we had not had such severe flooding since Medieval times. I guess this says something. I did hear a news story a few years ago that it will not be long before insurance companies refuse to cover houses on the shore line. This is, basically prime real estate. I think it went on to say that it will lead to large property development companies buying up this prime real estate as they will be able to afford to put in sea walls. They will then build high rise all along the coast line and sell them to recover the costs of putting in the sea walls with a huge profit on top.

Climate change, or rather the manipulation of a normal phenomenon, is a load of garbage. It is all about control and making money for governements and big business. They'd be in for a big shock if we all stopped buying their crap!!

I don't doubt pollution is having an adverse effect on the planet in addition to changes and extremes that occur naturally. People that don't care are industrialists and certain countries who have little regard for the earth and people on it provided their own agendas aren't affected.

Could the climate change push be a means for big business and/or politicians to make money? For instance, I am a legislator that supports electric cars and buses and solar panels and windmills and my spouse buys lots of stock in those companies whose value increases when the legislation is passed.

Dum is as dum does………lol

The original post isn't clear at all. 'Some' scientists - this is a wishy washy statement which makes it sound like there is quite a few who don't agree when, in fact it's only 2-3%, which is an extremely low number and therefore diminishes the whole point Zing is trying to make.

the poles are moving, but they wont tell you that

The Planet is going through Natural and Forced changes

To my surprise all my spring flowers which should not be blooming for another 2 months have all started to flower now, in what to me seems a pretty cool winter. Perhaps the people who say these things live in large cities where you can't see what nature is doing. My TV also shows America with huge forest fires in California, huge winds, Whatever name you give it, something unusual is happening to the weather.

Nothing that comes to mind

It’s all bull smit too me.

The climate has been changing for 6 billion years, and all the current hype is political, and in the west. Other countries don't give a rats !!!!!