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Betrayal - is it possible to truly move on?
Andrzej JSep 11, 23
Betrayal is a breach of trust and can feel very much like grief. Is it possible to truly move on? Have you ever undergone a huge betrayal? If so, how have you sought to process these lies?
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  • Unfortunately being betrayed has come to me more than I would like. I learnt to turn the page. I learnt that not everyone has good intentions. I learnt not to trust so easily. People use and abuse good hearted people.
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    • Yes, however, unfortunately you become more wary and less giving.
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      • yes, but you are the only one who can do it
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        • I think grief is a lot different but people deal with things differently, some people are strong some are weak,no ones better but thankfully I,m strong and got over it rather quickly as no one has the right or will hurt or break me,good luck
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          • It might seem impossible to move on when the situation happens, but with the right decisions to handle it,yes it's possible to move on.
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            • I don't know
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              • For yourself, Andrzej, you need to be able to move on, however, learn from it and analyse why such a challenge was given to you. Let it make you stronger. As for the betrayer, the further away they are the better.
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                • I suffered a huge betrayal from one of my daughters-in-law. I confronted her but she refused to discuss the matter. I never got over it or forgot it. She is now divorced from my son but I still see her and it still rankles and even now after many years after I see she reports back to my son with another load of lies and rubbish. Some people simply aren't right in the head and for some very odd reason get a kick out of causing trouble. She is passive aggressive and I am not. She was very prickly and after each visit I would receive a message dripping with syrup with an underlying knife in the back. You can't process lies because you can't fight them. All you can do is to move on but be wary.
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                  • What a lovely b@#$% she always will be, so you can take comfort in the fact that you aren't her. She rankles you every now and then but imagine how few real friends she has.
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                • I had a nervous breakdown. So the process was very painful. Hope you’ll move on. It’s not easy.
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                  • After 16 years my husband walked out on me. The "old friend" who had assisted in causing this was very put out when I told her that in fact I was delighted and felt absolutely no pain at all. I an sure that little note would not have been passed on.
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                    • Revenge is a dish best served cold. So if you've been betrayed cry a little cry a lot but ultimately you must do unto others as those have to you. The betrayal must be of equal or greater magnitude such that the betrayer is now the betrayee feels the pain you have endured. Then move on.
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                      • I’ve accepted people make mistakes and sometimes do the wrong thing and for the most part I can let stuff go, learn my lesson if needed and move on. But the time I couldn’t let a particularly hurtful betrayal go, an opportunity for revenge presented itself years later, I took it, served up a dish of delicious cold revenge and finally moved on. A painful story I couldn’t even talk about at one time has now become a hilarious tale of someone getting what they deserved and I don’t feel hurt from it anymore.
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                      • well done
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                    • When you have tasted betrayal at some point in your life, it's possible to truly move on although it's not the same, it can bring you down as well as leave a scar, making it hard to trust anyone.
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                      • No, retreat ,reassess move on cautiously
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                        • You can move on, but full trust is never possible again imo.
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                          • It would be harder to omove on at the beginning but you will. Besides time to short to hold a grudges
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                            • If you don't move on then you are giving in to the person who betrayed you and she/he will know it and probably openly gloat about your dependance to her/his friends! You may forgive but you must never, ever forget and do not hesitate to make it clear to her/hois friends how she/he betrayed you should THEY raise the issue with You and not the other way round! If THEY ask You then tell them the Truth including if she/he was sleeping around all the while professing her/his love for you.
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                              • Trust is a huge part of any relationship and it depends on who it is and how much you value that person. One break of trust you can usually handle forgivingly but when it is a pattern, well, number one something is lost, you can no longer talk openly to that person and will always be on guard. Some I have forgiven once I have confronted the issue and others I have just walked away quite happily. So hard when it is some-one very close and it takes time. What I find harder to deal with is when you cannot broach the issue and it remains unsaid. That is much harder to get over but ultimately just push it out of your head.
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                                • Once they betray you there is always the chance they will do it again. The trust will never be completely there.
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                                  • Nah. If trust is broken, that’s it! Dump the turkey and live a good life.
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                                    • Change the way to think about it and ask yourself how you participated. Respect yourself. Life will be a Happier place
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                                      • Move on and leave the betrayer behind.
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                                        • Thank God no huge betrayal in my lifetime
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                                          • never
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                                            • After every election just listen to what they say before the election to get your vote and what they do after the election when they have got what they wanted. My way to deal with Pollies and want to be Pollies is to exterminate themall and replace them with the first generation Always Incompetent which will be far cheaper for us all never work at all well and more importantly no one will ever notice that the Pollies have disappeared.
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                                              • In my experience it's best to say goodbye...
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                                                • Betrayal is not good you have to move on
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                                                  • It can be very hard to move on but you have to think of what is best for you. Can you forgive and move forward and try to rebuild what you had without constantly remembering the betrayal. Or will it be a barrier that you can't forgive or forget. You decide but there will always be a lack of trust
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                                                    • I think you have to look at the reason for the betrayal. Sometimes there are two sides to things. I had someone lie to me about something recently and now I simply do not necessarily believe what he says to me anymore. I say forgive but DO NOT forget. Learn from it.
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                                                      • We all have our values and beliefs. If those values are crossed, a relationship may never be the same again.
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                                                        • You can but things are never the same with the person. It’s always in the back of your mind.
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                                                          • You can eventually move on, but betrayal certainly erodes trust and confidence.
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                                                            • It seems to me, that logically, of course you can move on. You had to decide in the first place that you really liked someone that was once a stranger. Don't rush into a rebound relationship. They almost always end up in a disaster. Day by day it does get better and better. Just as you met the traitor, you'll meet someone else and most importantly it is "someone else." He won't think the same, act the same, or treat you the same way. You convinced yourself that this was Mr. Right and you can convince yourself the he is the big loser in this relationship. And who really wants a 'loser' ?
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                                                              • Betrayal of any kind isn't good. I had a cheating ex husband. They don't change. I have had friends betray me. I don't tolerate it anymore because I deserve much better. Move on.
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                                                                • mature people dont betray their partners.
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                                                                  • Only betrayal I have suffered is from government.
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                                                                    • My first wife was cheating on me & spending my money on a toy boy, still have feelings for her sometimes although it was 50 years ago. You've gotta move on, life is a bitch sometimes but mostly what you make of it.
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                                                                      • with all the crap that is going on in the world, and it's only getting worse, it's hard to trust anyone these days even family
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                                                                        • No I don't believe that it is.😙
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                                                                          • You expose the betraying scum. There is never just one lie or untruth or betrayal, there will be a whole lot. You expose them and make sure everyone who has been affected knows what sort of person they are really dealing with. Then you totally burn them.
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                                                                            • That sounds more like revenge to me. It can backfire - so be careful.
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                                                                          • it's tough I am sure everyone has been down this road, I found that self-preservation is key, I forgave the person involved,it didn't mean that I was okay with what happened, but it helped avoid retaliation, which i think creates a negative mindset,i put time and distance between me and that person it gave me the chance to heal, be patient with your self and don't fall into the trap of blaming yourself stay positive and keep to your routine, time does heal wounds and when you are ready you can accept this person/persons back into your life if you want to just look after yourself and don't blame yourself,,,,,,, good luck i hope you are well and stay well
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                                                                            • PRAY FOR STRENGTH AND TO FORGIVE, VERY DIFFICULT TO DO , TAKES TIME TOO
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                                                                              • Everything takes time......even searching for that darn caps lock key takes time! .... and yes, I do pray for the strength to forgive... and yes, it is very difficult....
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                                                                            • You have no choice. Depending on circumstances it can take time. But time does not stop and you will move on at your pace. Life may be different but it goes on.
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                                                                              • I have never been able to trust people enough in the first instance to ever feel betrayal....
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                                                                                • Depends on what the betrayal is, what sought of lies you have been told and it very much depends on from whom the betrayal has come from. Only you can decide on what can happen from here on in. Don't rush a discussion as the issue will still be there. I believe for me once some one has broken my trust it is extremely hard for them to get it back and to the point I really can't have that person in my life any more so it is like losing some one for ever. Then the grief sets in, as they say time heals most wounds ( some wounds are too deep they never go away.)
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                                                                                  • You really need to feel the pain of it and process your thoughts slowly, but surely. Meditation could help. Forgiveness is always possible, but depending on the situation I wouldn't necessarily just keep them in my life.
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                                                                                    • I'm sorry for you that sucks. That is stinky Donkey.
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                                                                                      • well I Think it is very hard but I guess you have to try to move on when you can. It is not easy just never go back to that situation again. Maybe you or I saw the signals but we didn't or want to believe but it was probably there. It will probably take a long time but if your are better than that you will overcome, it is just going to take a lot of time maybe I guess.
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                                                                                        • Its a process, but I do think in super rare cases where both parties are willing to put in the hard work in therapy its possible to get through it. Depending on the type betrayal. How it was initially discovered and discussed/fought. And case by case person by person, couple by couple. For some cheating would be absolutely impossible to even consider that kind of betrayal as forgivable or workable. Yet other people maybe able to work through it in therapy, learn how to trust again. Bit of each to their own. Some can handle personal when it effects them privately and personally. But if they see the kids, the dog etc being adversely effected by the betrayal. That's the tipping point. Personally. The cheating hurt, but it was the betrayal of the trust that you loose when cheated on is the hard part. But I didnt think it got worse than that until, I was being treated like crap when I was feeling like I had never before. Never had I ever NEEDED help, but a few weeks into post partum and a max of only 3 months since our sons birth surgery and subsequent emergency life saving hysterectomy and haemorrhaging that took 5 hrs under the knife stop. Casually near death, 5lts of blood lost and replaced etc. Infections in my incision scars, etc I had never been in such need of physical help to just heal, and try breast feed while our son was in ICU for 6 weeks. This was the time at my physical weakest point in my life... but It was the mental games, and coercive control that hurt, we were in therapy, he would constantly be at me about any little fopar or if I accidentally was rude by interrupting. Even if he knew, I have PTSD and ADHD which when triggered made me slip up and butt in. Even if i immediately stopped and apologised. It was the end of the world. I was trying so hard when in pain and such a sleep, food, severe iron deprived state. But it was he could give me a break while I was so sick. Including mentally. I out of the blue as in I had a good day, was feeling okay physically and pretty cheerful, first time ever, and last thankfully. Just was Overwhelmingly overcome with thoughts of suicide. That Id be better off, senarios how, Literally out of no where on a happy day....and it absolutely scared the fk out of me. I knew it was probably my PTSD. But it was the first time and screaming at me. And I immediately rang my Dr. Got an appointment for the next day. And then rang him, to confirm that we still had date night plans that evening and he was going to be here, as need/wanted to speak to him. He ended up asking to do something random that he had always wanted to try popped up with his friends. So I agreed go do the thing...then come over and chat. He eventually got here, and eventually was off the computer and ready to join me for the chat. When I told him, he acted concern as in said the words asked the questions, was hugging me, I was really cry crying as I was finding trying to expain how scared I was. And that I was already booked in to see the dr can he either come or watch the baby. Yes to both was promised. I was still trying to stop the tears that I had no control over, he asked if I wanted to watch anything but it was late, I was exhausted in everyway and I knew I had to tell the dr yet. So I choose to try sleep so he sat up a so he could get back to him sharing his earlier fun with his mates on all of his socials, even opening new ones to share his videos himself while I cried myself asleep the most scared ive ever been. He stayed up so late he didn't come to the appointment or look after our son who was asleep anyway while I went to the Drs That was the ultimate betrayal. The person you love, who nearly died birthing his son, who only proposed a month earlier. Basically reject me when I needed him the most. So he could post and get his likes for the videos from earlier. The feeling that it didnt matter if I wanted to die, him attention fishing online to strangers was more important. That was true betrayal that my life ment so little to him. And his need for attention was much more important. Yeah that was the icing on the cake. I left him 2 weeks after, I knew that I needed him to be available for our son as I knew the kinds medication the dr was likey to put me on, all have horrible side effects and I should have back up around at least for the first week on them. Which he also left me to do alone as he would bait and try pick fights. Breaking up was such a relief. Some tension I had been carrying around in the relationship. I felt so guilty that I audibly breathed and sighed out loud. But better working meds and getting rid of him Was the solution
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                                                                                          • I had a similar situation with my last ex. I don't understand how someone could have no empathy or sympathy for someone when they are going through so much! I applaud you for leaving him. It was the similar thing that made me finally say that I deserved better.
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                                                                                        • yes it may turn out for the good in the long run nil desperandum never despair
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                                                                                          • It is better to be open mind
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                                                                                            • Think of it as opening your eyes to the other person's behaviour and decide with your own mind how you want to go about handling the situation and making your life better.
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                                                                                              • Yes. Get over it. Life is for living. As the old saying goes 'There is more fish in the sea"
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                                                                                                • My parents hurt me deeply when they shunned me for leaving my husband for a man that I loved so deeply that was fighting leukemia. He passed, but we had to go through the whole journey with no family support.
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                                                                                                  • It's hard but you have no choice. Move on
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                                                                                                    • Yes, just forgive and forget.
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                                                                                                      • I would put the past behind me and move on you can do this you just have to look for new things to do and put yourself into it its hard but it can be done I did it
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                                                                                                        • Are you moving on and continuing life with the one who betrayed you or are you moving on by severing all contact and starting a new life without them? This is two different things. I had family betray me once to the point where i had to sever all contact with them. I have not spoken to them since and am doing MUCH better for it. They are still spreading rumours about me, but if that helps them sleep at night- who cares. At least the death threats have stopped... for now.
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                                                                                                          • I learned that we all need 3 things to have an honest relationship: TRUST, TALK and TOUCH! If even ONE of those are missing, chances are it will not work long term. Yes, I have been betrayed MANY, MANY times. I can forgive, but I have not been able to forget. Seems I kept making the same mistakes over and over. Now I trust God to choose my steps, and I've had a smooth path, most of the time, but He gets me through the rough patches! Jeremiah 10:23 tells us, "I well know, O Jehovah, that man's way does not belong to him. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step." (Psalm 17:5, 37:23; Proverbs 16:3, 20:24. ;-D
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                                                                                                            • Hi Rochelle! Any chance you could paraphrase that proverb in your own words? A challenge I know, but writing is full of challenges! Give it a go. You may surprise yourself.
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                                                                                                          • Yes, my daughter betrayed me in a big way. She is out of my life but it is hard to get over it. It is hard, but it must be done. I am moving on with my life without her. She may think that she has got what she wants, but she is losing a hell of her life as she has lost contact with her grand children. Her son's don't want anything to do with her. (Her loss).
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                                                                                                            • Yes..it is very difficult to process...but you must cut all contact with that person..
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                                                                                                              • After being betrayed to extremes, I was told I was depressed and took anti-depressants for 29 years before finding out I was not depressed. None of them worked on me. They would either have no effect, the opposite effects or severe adverse effects. I think I saw about 7 different psychiatrists who only wanted to medicate. I did see a psychologist who was more helpful and took a more holistic approach. I also drank a lot too. It turns out it was likely PTSD due to moral injury ( a massive assault on my moral boundaries and values and loss of a dream life). And then also learned that my children are not mine biologically( though I still loved them unconditionally). I recently found a list of meds I was taking for quite some time. Thye would have killed a horse.And no, you never really get over it. It is very hard to trust again.
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                                                                                                              • Yes, you move on foward!, no looking back, never go back...the result if you do will be the same, sometimes worse!
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                                                                                                                • Yes you can. Go out with family and friends. Enjoy yourself and time will heal. We learn and we grow no matter our age. So much you could do with your life. Take a holiday or a weekend away and recharge your battery. As the song goes ' I am woman watch me grow' and so another chapter begins.
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                                                                                                                  • I mean it wores when you get treated like a bad dog all your life where is the hope but you have to believe in your self not what othes think of you.You have to live in a real world to
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                                                                                                                    • It works when you get treated like a dog all your life
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                                                                                                                        • yes been betrayed,Yes forgiven the person, but no one never forgets and it is hard to give back trust....It has to be earned ..Time may tell, but I am CAREFUL NOW TO SHARE..
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                                                                                                                          • Once someone betrays your trust, for me I feel it is time to move on. It will take time to recover, however in that time you will learn to really like yourself and know you are worthy of only people in your life who respect you are loyal and trustworthy…
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                                                                                                                            • Forgiving yourself is the hardest part. However you don't forget, and what you don't forgive festers.
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                                                                                                                              • If you are having difficulties moving on (from betrayal) - try conversing with a mental health specialist/professional.
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                                                                                                                                • Hi Walter. Good to see you. Trust all goes well. Have a good week. x
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                                                                                                                                • Hi Lyn. The same for you :-)).
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                                                                                                                                • Betrayal of your own country??......
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                                                                                                                                • Yes! Many have felt betrayed by the BLACK LIVES MATTER movement, exposed as a democrat funded divisive propaganda tool, which lined the pockets of a few black people (they scammed hundreds of millions of $$ - tax free - while George Floyd's estate got nothing.....) - Candace Owens - a brilliant young black woman - did a lot to bring this to light (check out her doco on YouTube) . So I understand the betrayal you are feeling, and the trouble you're having with moving on. If you think a health professional can help you, yes, try.
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                                                                                                                              • There are different types of betrayal, fortunately most of mine have only been back stabbiing in hostile work environments.
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                                                                                                                                • Accepting that I deserve better than to be betrayed by someone trusted and knowing that I can't afford to trust that person again
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                                                                                                                                  • Forgive and forget.
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                                                                                                                                    • I have never had to deal with betrayal fortunately. I know what I would do and that is end it and move on and not look back. As hard as it would be to deal with it I know moving on would be the answer because if you can't then the person who has betrayed you wins and I would never let them win.
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                                                                                                                                      • I've never had to deal with it but I'm hopeful it's like grief that you'll take it day by day and one day it won't be so bad but also learn from it
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                                                                                                                                        • hi ty Lin.. R...
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                                                                                                                                          • Hard but Ull make it
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                                                                                                                                            • Life is better when you move on.
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                                                                                                                                              • I’ve given my partner so many chances and he’s betrayed me a lot of times!
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                                                                                                                                                • Yes I was betrayed now almost 40 years ago the boyfriend at the time we were together six months and the other girlfriend was four months pregnant. I ended that relationship really really quick. It took a very long time to even date after that. I eventually met my partner of 13 years, until I lost him to cancer. Trust is something that is earned. I would like to say I have moved on but I do not know if I ever trust anyone 100 percent
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                                                                                                                                                  • Oh yes been there done that !. I was betrayed almost 50 years ago. It would be difficult to deny the betrayal as my girlfriend, at the time was 5 months pregnant. She had been living away and had an affair with another man. when she returned she did admit what she had done, it could not be denied. I was able to get past it as we have been been married for over 40 years now. Her betrayal was known, as far as we know, to only the two of us. I was really hurt by this and and it did take sometime to "get over it". Together we did raise her child and have not had any contact the the father, as far as I know. I did also betray her, even though she is not aware, as far as I know. But this happened over 30 years ago. Once betrayed you can move on alone or together. The betrayal can never be thrown in the face of the betrayer during any argument. Arguments happen in all relationships but the betrayal is out out of bounds if the relationship is to work. Love is very powerful, good luck.
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                                                                                                                                                    • Spend less time trying to figure it out because you will not truly understand why. It happened and just is! Move on, get stronger and more independent. This is a life lesson and a part of how we evolve over time. Still treat others as you want to be treated. Do no harm! A few years from now, you will see things differently. Best wishes.
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                                                                                                                                                      • Depends on what sort of betrayal, and how bad it is. What might not be so bad to one person, might be disgusting to another. There are some pretty mean, cold-hearted and delusional people out there nowadays with virtual doctorates in self-justification. They don't deserve trust or forgiveness. They deserve being shown up as the liars that they are.
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                                                                                                                                                        • Each and every betrayal during your life will make you massively stronger...maybe a bit colder and more self reliant...a bit smarter?...but you evolve so that people can't hurt you as much...which makes perfect sense...
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                                                                                                                                                          • Yes. well said APB.
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                                                                                                                                                          • APBCher
                                                                                                                                                            thank you Cher
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                                                                                                                                                          • Well said and my view exactly so I shall not add further. Have a great day APB. x
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                                                                                                                                                        • I think it depends on the kind of betrayal. Or if it's more than one kind. Or one kind more than once. If the 'at fault' person isn't making any steps to improve and show true remorse, move on. Nothing changes unless the issue is admitted and fixed. In my case, I was young and weak and believed it would get better, but there were so many betrayals with my ex....screwing around, drinking, sexual abuse of the kids (I found that out after the split) and raping me, lying constantly, physical abuse, financial control, abusing what the Bible says to suit his whims,... you name it, he did it. This is why I need meds for PTSD and nightmares 27 years after we finally split. I know God gets the final say and there's a special place in Hell for him, but the damage is so severe, there's no healing a big part of me. I will be single and not even dating anymore because I just cannot trust again. But this is my story. It was WAY beyond fixing. So, for you out there who have one or two or 3 betrayals with a partner or friend, I truly believe that's fixable. Make your own story as good and healthy as you can. Godspeed:)
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                                                                                                                                                          • You are inspiring Terri.
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                                                                                                                                                          • Thank you, so much. I really want to help people in any way that I can.
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                                                                                                                                                        • never been thru that but feel a person needs to move on with life and put behind one's self and hold one's head up high
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                                                                                                                                                          • well said.
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                                                                                                                                                          • tyvm cher, have a great day..!!!
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                                                                                                                                                        • I think most people in life have had a betrayal or breach of trust. One never forgets and I really don't think one can honestly forgive. It is all life experiences. One goes forward but it teaches us the lesson to be a little bit wary of people. If someone has done it to me and it is a serious breach they are out of my life. I do not need these types of people bringing me down.
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                                                                                                                                                          • YES BETRAYAL IS ONR HARD THING TO GET OVER BUT YOU MUST MOVE ON IF YOU DO NOT YOU WILL BE BE IN THE NUT HOUSE .YOU HAVE TO TAKE THIS IT IS ALL PART OF YOUR LIFE I AM SORRY TO SAY MIKE
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                                                                                                                                                            • I feel bad mike. I have been offering help for you to find that damn caps lock key, but it doesn't seem to be working. Does your keyboard have one?
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