Hmm. Who really knows what's happening?

With all the chemicals they putting into grown for vegetables to grow these days is wrong. The spray hormones on green seedless grapes to turn then purple and that’s coming from a grape grow. We never had kids with a all these different problems like adhd autism and it’s from all the chemicals in everything they eat.

Far too many narrow-viewed & biased comments in this forum. I've been a carnivore for all of my 72 years, but now I actually prefer fruit & veg, and only eat meat (mostly white meat) 1 or 2 days/week. And I'm not driven by "what is good for me", simply that I prefer the taste of fruit and vegetables nowadays.

I recently saw a documentary that said if 25% of the world population became vegetarian there wouldn't be enough space to grow plants organically. Pesticides would have to be used more, which would have issues for the environment.

Like most greenie fad ideas, it's a load of nonsense that hasn't been thought through properly. The big companies are jumping on the band wagon because they think it makes them look good and "caring" (which again is just nonsense). Just ignore all the silliness and eat whatever you want to, within the realms of common sense.

I'm lucky that both Caviar and Truffles fit within being Pescatarian.

I am becoming a vegetarian because I can't afford meat I grow most of my veggies which is a plus s

A question. What happens to all the animals that produce our meat? They will be eliminated to make way for plant production? So extinction of a few species! Where will wool come from? No leather. Edited 08-Jan-24 08:51am

all you have to do is grind up a lot of vegetables....make it look and taste a bit like meat...it costs a third what meat would cost...and then sell it for a lot more than meat...and people might buy it because they feel guilty...perfect ...if you have to discount it to get rid of it you STILL make a massive profit...win win Edited 08-Jan-24 03:47am

I'm a 3 veg' and meat, fish or poultry kind of person. But I do like sweets and that is my downfall.

Cows eat grass, and not just any grass, in order to make milk they need green grass. Grass needs water too, much more than trees do because trees get water from deeper underground via their tap root.Edited 07-Jan-24 21:29pm

What I don't like, in fact I loathe, about Vegans and Vegetarians is thet they adopt the attitude that they are so much better than everyone else. yet these are the same people who want all their "Flesh" replacement meals to taste just like the Beef, Chickem Lamb, Turkey, Pork, Salmon, Barramundi, Herrings etc. they used to eat before they became so much better, more Environmentally Conscious and overall Much Superior Citizens than the rest of us. The next time you are in the Supermarket have a good, close look at the Ingredients Label on all this Vegetarian, Vegan food. You will be surprised, very possibly, and justifiably, shocked at the amount of Laboratory-produced "Nature Identical" Flavours, Colours, the amount of Sodium, NaCl, and other Artificial Chemicals which are used to make those Meat Free Sausages, Mince, Steaks etc. taste just like the real thing! It is a bit like those people who say they have stopped using sugar, the Cane or Beet variety and have switched to No Calorie, No Fat Artificlal Sweeteners all sold under trade names but which are, in truth, produced in laborarories and some of the ingredients have been shown, no, Proven to be Carcinogenic! You don't have to adopt any of these extremist fads such as Veganism, if you want to reduce the amount of Meats you eat, just do so and increase your Vegetables including Potatoes! For the extremists they all seem to think they are better than everyone else, they are so arrogant, so smug, they really have no idea what problems they are setting up fopr themselves after eating all that Artificial rubbish. They won't eat Cheese, drink Milk, eat Eggs and try to imply that this is contributing to cutting down on Animal Cruelty. Garbage, utter garbage because the Cows will still be producing milk, chickens still laying infertile eggs and they do it al Naturally.Edited 07-Jan-24 15:53pm

i consider myself vegan, i eat the cows that eat the grass,,, Edited 07-Jan-24 08:48am

The WEF want us all eating less (or no) meat. They want to eradicate farms and feed us on bugs and artificial meat. It's all a con. But in saying that, If people chose to be vegetarian then that's up to them. But I totally disagree on it being forced upon us. Edited 06-Jan-24 22:46pm

In some cultures it's common to be a vegetarian. I think if they are getting a balance of different foods it doesn't matter that much. Might even be healthier for some people. We aren't all the same.

we have incisor teeth because we are omnivores. A vegetarian diet is not natural for humans

How do you know if someone's a vegan ? Don't worry they'll tell you within 5 minutes of meeting.. we are at the top of the food chain for a reason .Meat! And veg then the brains to churn the milk into dairy products and make all sorts of other creations .If they must make plant based substitutes for a chicken burger, stop filling them with rubbish ,yuk !

i used to milk the cows and drink the cream froth,and guess what i didnt die rgds

On a website....a lady complained to her doctor about bad tingling and other issues she was experiencing. Tests were done and it found that she had a severe deficiency of B12. This is common in many who don't eat meat and can cause serious health issues. Even if you don't eat meat you still need to make sure you get enough B..12 in your diet or face the consequences.Edited 02-Oct-22 16:58pm

I think with the cost of quality meat these days...it will probably force people into becoming a vegetarian. Probably not a bad thing tho as too much meat is eaten.

And how much water do you think cows milk uses? They have to wash the bins that contains the milk. Also have to feed the cows. Almond milk doesn't use up that much because only small percentage drink it. So your argument is flawed for a start. Some can't drink milk or eat cheese.Edited 26-Apr-22 22:38pm

There are plenty of alternatives to almond milk if you are so inclined. Almond milk takes too much water to produce and is not an environmentally friendly alternative to cows milk. Human milk is the best option for human babies, but failing that formula is the way to go. I have always loved milk ( and cheese-seriously how good is cheese !!), still do so I am as guilty as the next person. I am not a vegetarian or vegan, but it is true that farming animals is not great for the environment on a whole range of levels. There has to be some kind of balance. Realistically the world is not going to cease eating all meat. It's not going to happen. I would be 100% up for trying plant based alternatives if they taste good and would happily substitute some if the taste and the cost factor is affordable.

Whatever you eat...something usually ends up dead...vegetables feel pain too...but nobody cares about vegetables because they don't have little faces.... heavily processed food is bad for you...what do you think vegetable protein disguised as meat is? ....and plastic milk? ...come on ...please pay attention Edited 26-Apr-22 00:40am

Yeah, now imagine all humans became vegans. What will happen with cows? Will you take one to your house as a pet? The only one humanitarian way is to kill them all as species, which is also about pigs, horses, sheep. Right? I don’t eat much meat I do not like the taste. Fish is fine tho. Anyway, I can not look at plant based food either because it looks unbeatable and plastic.

I have been eating more fruits and veggies for my health issues, But I will never give up my cheeseburgers!

most pesticides are made of crushed pests like cockroaches are made mostly of crushed cockroaches, because they hate their own dead stink so some how someone found a way to entice the roaches and give them something they couldn't resist namely honey or sugar in paste but then they'd smell it in their families and eat them too

I am hoping this is a trend that, like flared pants and disco balls, will come and quietly go.

when I loose my teeth I might consider vegies but for now they go well with meat

not me not ever

Never forget we are omnivores

Plants can be set up to use recycled water. One big problem with a lot of cows milk is the proteins that can affect people's health. I do not have dairy - but not by choice for health reasons - as do a lot of other people. There are a lot of things that can be done to make things better for the planet.

Plant based eating seems to be a great idea but keep in mind that it is a choice. People who live in cold climates do not have access to fresh produce.

The first time I had wheat grass and felt better after drinking the juice I knew I was going to save my vegetables boilling fluids that I'd become vegetarian sooner or later and then I'd find out cows could read minds and then grow enormous muscles but never eat meat it's no joke that I can mostly only eat chicken and fish on off weeks it born out of necessity since prices are insane I'm going to make me a chicken houseEdited 07-Aug-21 11:30am

Veganism is definitely the way of the future. The animal agricultural industry is cruel and inhumane. The dairy industry is cruel and inhumane. Cows are artificially impregnated, they calve and then their babies are taken from them and either slaughtered or kept for veal in the dark if they are male or kept if they are female for future milking. Cows are repeatedly impregnated until they are spent then sent to slaughter. Disgraceful. The egg and chicken industries are no better. Free range means nothing neither does RSPCA approved. When chicks hatch the females are kept for egg laying while the males are conveyed into a grinder alive for fertiliser or pet food. Absolutely abhorrent. Pigs are intelligent sentient beings who are often gassed then steamed to remove the hair, they scream with fear and pain. Slaughter houses are hell holes. Animals are abused by some and fight to live. Animals feel pain, they have emotions. Vegan for Life.

Please God just don't stop us eating puddings.

haha Linda , my hubby is accusing me of making us both vegan because im using up vegies from our vegie patch. its a good idea and a healthier one even though we both eat meat.

I think it’s definitely the way of the future. Environmentally we can’t keep producing the amount of meat demanded at the moment

im not a rabbit

I think it is the green party pushing for more tighter controls on any topic related to the environment. The Greene's environmentalists go nuts on what we should eat or not eat. The green party want to save the planet at all costs. Maybe they have businesses under there thumb or work for them. Who knows? It could be big con to force or make you eat what they want you to eat. They are pushing the direction they want you to go. At what cost to you & I'm sure dollars are heading to businesses who may have no choice but to save the planet from humans. I think someone in government is pushing for more regulations into what direction the food industry must take. It may not be of what you want.

I just know of some people that eat too much animal protein. This can also cause ... problems for some. Haemochromsis is a disorder that causes Iron overload. They have to be careful of their diet, including how much meat they eat. Same with some that have kidney problems. Certain people have to have restricted diets. Gluten free, allergic, dairy..etc. Everyone is different.

Once it was just basically lentil burgers or mushrooms. Now there is so much choice for people that are Vegetarian. Isn't that good!

Yes, there is a place for veggies on your plate, next to the meat or as chips with the fish.

One thing that some have forgotten on here. Vegetarians also need protein, like people that eat meat, chicken, fish. So, there are products on the market that cater for these people. It's not a con. It's simply processing food. Most of us eat it... Processed foods. Some of the plant based food does taste rather bland, some are high in salt and so on. There are also some good and healthy choices out there. Always read the label. Don't just take the manafuctures word for it. Some of the stuff is quite expensive. But each to their own! You are also keeping people in jobs..when you buy. Vegans still need protein. They have to get it from somewhere. No one should be made to feel guilty for their food choices. Meat, fish, Vegan, whatever? Let people eat what they want. This is senseless .Edited 06-Aug-21 18:44pm

I'm sorry but it's meat and vegetables in this house and need red meat for the anemia with out red meat I'm tired and lathargic I'm not even a lover of chicken

We should all be eating more veggies

I am already a second hand veggies the cows, sheep and pigs eat the grass and I eat the cows, sheep and pigs

Eat meat it's better for you

Con

Yes it's all a big con, including climate change, to make money for the UN and all those rich cronnies running the world!!

If you wan't to be a vegetarian, that's fine but don't push it on to any one else ok.

There is a place for plants. In the garden not the plate! However veggies are good

Why

why

I have never tried Almond milk. Why do they make veg products into meat shaped products? That's always confused me. I think every thing in moderation is fine. I do eat meat and when I was little I cried when I found out where it came from. Mum would do a roast on Sundays and that fixed me, the smell was enough to change my mind again.

I don't mind the vegetarian lifestyle. I do like the occasional piece of meat.

I must say that I like my meat and veg however, am not adverse to having a meat free meal every now and then. My mother consumed salads all year round and only had a very small piece of meat on her plate. She is 97. She used to make me a plate of fruit for supper every night when I was a youngster .... fortunately, their garden produced well all year round.

Humans eating MEAT & vegetables helped them develop into the brainiest animal on the planet.

To each their own and i have nothing against those who choose to be vegetarian or Vegan. Its just when "Some" try to shove their beliefs down my throat I get really annoyed. So I indenfiy as a second hand vegetarian, Cows eat grass, I eat cows etc. I also love my veges, as much as possible home grown without chemicals. The other thing that annoys me is calling something Milk when its not, so called Almond Milk is Juiced Almonds. "Milk" comes from Mammals. I wish they would call it what it is

not for me & my family .We grow & eat plenty of fruit & vegies avoiding use of pesticides.We love a lamb ,beef or Pork roast & a good steak we eat everything in moderation.We love a curry & often eat a vegie only curry we put lots of vegies in a stir fry or a stew .I believe we have a healthy all round diet including dairy products

Yes people always want to make more money

A lot of our fruit and vegetables are Genetically modified. They do not know the long term harm to our bodies. I still eat meat and only gluten free products due to coeliac disease.

I think they are forcing us to eat less meat via the back door by putting up the prices, some cuts, pardon the pun, are $46K and they've now realised that people seem to be buying more mince, which used to cost next to nothing, so they've hiked them up as well. Vegetables aren't that cheap either. With all their ear bashing about going vegan they're sending people deaf, will soon be diagnosed as a condition brought on by veganism! I love my meat and I love my vegetables together all on the one plate.

One of my grandaughters at 10 years of age is a vegetarian, makes it very hard to give her something to eat at times. Her reasoning is she does not like animals to be killed which, I guess is fair enough. I think back to my grandparents times and there were not the health problems that we have now with childhood ailments.

I"m a meat and vege eater.Much better grow your own veges then to buy them if you can grow them .They are not saving our planet if they have to use pesticide" s to kill the bugs ,they are killing our planet not just the bugs.

There will always be those self-satisfied, arrogant people who think they have the Right to tell the rest of is what we should, or should not, do. They are not unlike those self-important religious people - you all know the types who can't wait to tell us what Good Christians, Jews, Muslims they are and all the while, just as has been revealed about the founder of that arrogant, Hillsong Church (They, like all Pentecostal Churches, think and proclaim that they and only they know what God wants) who has been charged with covering up Child Sex Abuse by his own father, they have dirty magazines under their beds, or are beating their partners, screwing 6, 7 and 8 year-olds children. Eat what you like and don't pay any attention to these self-righteous people who think they know better than the rest of us. That being said there is no harm and probably quite a lot of good for our health if we do reduce our intake of Red Meat such as Beef and Lamb.,

I really like a bit of meat to go with my vegetarian diet, actually it’s a see food diet and I don’t distinguish between the value of vegetable, fungal or animal life. It dies I live and thank you for your sacrifice. When I go I’ll return the favour to the bugs…lol

This is a globalist agenda pushed by the wealthiest 1% in the world (often referred to as the Cabal) , including Bill Gates and in conjunction with the UN and WHO of which the largest individual donor in the entire world and second only to the country of the US funding.......is surprise , surprise.....Bill Gates. Bill Gates is also the largest individual owner of all farming land in the US. Surprise, surprise..... annnnnnd Bill Gates is the person pushing for and producing artificial food and vegetable "meat" products..... again surprise, surprise. Bill Gates if he does not produce anything from all his US farming land, which he can afford to do, can artificially produce a famine and voila...... provide his artificial food and profit by trillions$$$$ Look it up folks....This is all a part of the NWO Agenda..... One World Order, Globalist One World Government. Agenda 21. Agenda 2030,The great Reset. You know....Klaus Schwab of The World Economic Forum notoriety who says "You will own nothing and be happy". The push is on for cashless society, micro chipping people (as per Klaus Schwab) for individual tracking and surveillance for use of a world wide social credit system where you are punished for anti-government behaviours, actions or or thoughts. Everyone one will be on a Universal Basic Income and provided Bill Gates food rations because you will no longer have money to buy food and they are genetically modifying food so people can no longer plant and grow food themselves. A totalitarian dictatorship One World Government is in the process of being installed at this very moment.. Watch the video below b\y a satirist actually summarising it all very well. ;-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEQcyIGH_vQ

I could be a vegetarian but don’t see how it can be a balanced diet

Free choice is the way to go. I love some meat and lots of fresh fruit and vegetables.

I like chips.

I think this is a personal choice. There are many people out there with allergies to different foods and so one type of diet does not suit all. Also different work and lifestyles require different food types.

Just fashion and on trend this week next year it will be something different with people adopting a Farm Animal till it goes to either slaughter or overseas trade.

I'm not vegiterian entirely I like some vegetables

What happens to the farm animals? Do they roam free or become extinct?

I am not a big meat eater but i do eat some. I guess we all have our preferences

People can preach about converting to vegetarianism all they like but it's not going to stop me from tucking in to my steak, pork, chicken or lamb. I already recycle the bejeesus out of everything and the only single use plastic I use is my bin liners. I compost my food scraps and I freeze my leftovers instead of throwing them out. Gotta have something to look forward to after doing all of that

I am not and never will be a Cow, rabbit, goat or a sheep. Meat is neat.

vegetarian not for me

It won’t stop me eating meat but it has made me aware that I am probably eating it too often.

WHY !

To scared to say what i eat, to many armchair experts putting other people down for their choices.

I eat vegetarian food on certain days of the week for religious beliefs but am not a vegetarian by any means. I have family members who insist on converting me to be a vegan and I tell them I have never asked them to become a meat eater again so they have no right to tell me what to eat and that usually stops them but for some of them I just ignore and walk away. I don't tell people what to eat or do and I prefer them not telling me either. To each its own is what it should be.

What may be good for one may not be good for another..I chose to be vegetarian 20 odd years ago mainly because eating meat no longer felt a healthy choice for me ..I feel happier, and much much healthier in my 60's than I've ever felt in my whole life..but..I could never become vegan , as I still like to my cheese ..lol...my son and Husband still eat meat and I still cook it for them ... :)

Like anything in life, do what you think is right and don't persecute other people who have different beliefs.

We all have a choice as to what we eat.But I do not handle very well being told how good vegan foods are.

When humans first arrived on earth the food they ate was what they caught, mostly meat was consumed. I have no problem if somebody wants to be a vegetarian, vegan or anything else, what I absolutely hate are people telling me what I should eat. I eat meat and vegetables because that's what keeps my body healthy. There are a lot of people who believe every thing they are told so if someone says you should only eat plant foods they will even if it is not good for their bodies. I have reached a grand old age and I still have a healthy body and brain. Long live meat and veg.

Most humans are too selfish and greedy to consider the suffering of the animals they consume. They are happy to gorge themselves on lots of meat and fatty foods. Mankind has lost it's way. Eating simple foods that are preferrably home grown ensures a healthier way of living. Many of the modern illnesses are caused by our lifestyle - eating too much of the wrong suff and lack of exercise. Meat is not chemical free. But each to their own and live with the consequences.

Err poster really needs to do more research. Plant based diets have been scientifically proved to be a more healthier option. Plus poster Never bought up the issue of eating a living creature, a creature that doesn't want to die to end up on your plate!Commercially bred animals in most cases are given a inhumane very short life. Cows have their babies taken off them at 4 days old and slaughtered so we can drink they milk, yuck why would any conscious person use dairy or eat dead animals. Edited 06-Aug-21 18:29pm

I EAT MEAT AND WILL CONTINUE TO EAT WHAT I LIKE. I HAVE NOT TURNED 88 AND STILL HEALTHY BY NOT LISTENING TO EVERYBODY ELSES OPINION.

Each to our own

I"m a meat and vege person

Veges are excellent for our health ,we would do much better to grow our own veges,can"not always trust those big gardens.They won"t save the planet by using pesticide" s the will ruin the planet much more,yes we are being conned

One, this planet operates on capitalism principles (which is supposedly good for every homo sapien on the planet - HAHA). Two, businesses are always going to try to separate you from your money on an ongoing unethical basis (called advertising in the USA). Three, adopting a vegetarian lifestyle or vegan lifestyle is NOT going to save the planet (PERIOD). Four, overpopulation of the planet is the problem (which has caused environment issues). Five, to save the planet - EVERY country (on the planet) will have to go to a strict birth control policy (and I do not see that happening under any circumstances - religion - especially in my country (USA)). Six, the world's population is 7,900,000,000 and counting. A baby is born every 2.5 seconds on this planet. Seven, you could call homo sapiens demise - POETIC JUSTICE. Since we are the only specie on the planet capable of laying the groundwork (which we are doing) for our own EXTINCTION! Last -- BON APPETIT!Edited 06-Aug-21 08:14am

agree :O

I remember when paper bags were seen as a bad thing as it meant we were chopping down trees to make them and this was bad for the planet so the transition was made to plastic bags. Now plastic bags have proven more problematic than paper bags so paper bags are now considered environmentally friendly again. Here is my point: if everyome lived a vegetarian lifestyle, there would be problems that would be unforseen on a massive scale by these vegetarian extremists starting with crops which are water and resource intensive, more space for more crops to feed EVERYONE as that is our only diet...we will also be competing with the animals for vegetable/grain resources and as the animals are not being eaten, their populations will explode and the whole eco system will be out of balance with even more "cow farts" for the atmosphere. Everything in moderation is the best. I don't try to convince vegetarians or vegans to convert to meat for any reason and they should, likewise, leave us meat eaters to control the animal population.

The most important thing is to eat whole foods, rather than processed foods. Vegetarian is a good choice, and so too is reducing meat consumption to around 10% of your diet or less.

It don't need to be pushed on everyone

I am a vegetarian I think everyone needs to eat a balanced diet . Like vegans usually need a multivitamin every day and most need iron supplement aswell. Vegetarian for some it means they need a iron supplement so certain people couldn't be one and kids ,babies aswell

I love it when the vegan/vegetarian issue comes up. People get so defensive and angry. It’s a question of ethics for most people who choose not to eat meat. It doesn’t mean that they don’t like hamburgers, chicken Kiev’s etc That’s why there are plant based alternatives. People still want to have those things sometimes, but are not prepared to have them at the expense of the life of a sentient being that has been raised to be killed just to give them a menu choice.Edited 06-Aug-21 11:21am

Biggest Con... how come so much plant food is "just like some kind of meat"!!!