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Army on the streets
Ivan KAug 21, 21
Some places around the world have Army on the streets. We have that here in Australia (Sydney). What is your opinion about that, is it OK to have it in Australia but not OK in North Korea and why?
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  • Angela 1386671
    It is the governments decision to have or use the army to enforce their laws. I would hope that I don't live to see this in the United States because it eventually will come to it.
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    • Gunter L
      Ivan, you can't compare Australia with North Korea. If the government of North Korea wants to have the Army on the street, that is a matter for them. If the government of Australia wants to have the Army on the street, that is a matter for them.
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      • Luv ur
        I'm 50 something and we call it "marshall law" when the military is on the streets to enforce laws and I fully believe, before I die, that we will see "Marshall law" on the streets. At least at especially difficult and dangerous times.
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        • Josephina
          And it's going to be more prevalent and more obvious as the world becomes more chaotic and the economy finally falls... It's going to happen, says so in Revelation the bible!!
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        • Luv urJosephina
          yep, so much in Revelations has happened and it will continue to. You are right about that. I find it scary, but I also find peace that God is in charge and if I just keep trying to do good with my life, I don't need to fear.
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        • Grommie
          Martial law actually
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      • john v 551148
        the us could use it in kenosha
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        • Peter G 261709
          We should shoot a few of these idiots then maybe they would get the message.
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          • Margaret C 68385
            Well if irresponsible, self centred, ill informed, inconsiderate, selfish halfwits would so the right thing, there would be no NEED to ask the ADF for help. They are trying to keep those who would rather do the right thing safe. Therefore It is NOT the sign of a fascist dictatorship as some would suggest. These petals need to come into the REAL world and grow up!!!!
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            • Mopos
              Exactly Margaret C, well said!!
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          • Timtam
            It's not my preferred way of doing things for sure. However with the number of selfish idiots who think they are somehow special petals to whom the health orders do not apply, I don't have a problem with it. They are mostly checking that those who are supposed to be isolating are doing so, and helping with logistics etc. They are not walking around threatening to shoot people. What I more wary of is morons protesting and idiodic conspiracy theorists spreading their bat shit crazy ideas that uncle Joe got off utube and thinking it compares in any way shape or form to actual scientific research,
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            • Philip W 89828
              Sign of a fascist dictatorship with zero care for the people. Each and every police person and military person are guilty of suppression and oppression.
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              • APB
                Do you know Mary M Ivan?...I just wondered...you just seem to have so much in common... Perhaps you could get together for a coffee or something?....its just a thought
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                • Sandra H 2204 NSW
                  The idiots who insist on ignoring stay at home orders that the majority of people follow by having stupid beach parties and just being plain stupid and putting all the rest of us in danger are who make it necessary for stronger action - so if the army can help by backing up the police I am all for it - the sooner we get on top of this thing the sooner we can get back to our lives.
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                  • Priscilla R 316016
                    Think the big difference here is our Army on the streets are not carrying rifles or other side arms like they do in North Korea, don't you think so too?
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                    • Philip W 89828
                      We're not in f***** North Korea! this is expected from them not in Aus.
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                  • Rose S 88496
                    No problems with them at all
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                    • roger l 315504
                      idiots that are stupidly spreading covid, that's smart, and it's a similar attitude that seeks to stir shit when our soldiers ( only protected by a face mask and AZ vaccine) are backing up police officers just doing their job
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                      • Mary M 329762
                        We say china has no freedom with army on the streets. Now Australia is became the samethings. They always a peaceful way to get peoples to do things. My grandparents live in village just like this first army on the streets next they go into hourse without notes. And killing, take they kids and take they stuffs. Ask everyone how run away of war this is first steps no freedom.
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                        • Margaret C 68385
                          QUE?
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                      • Joanne D 188999 NZ
                        Well if people won't follow the rules and stay at home then yes they need to keep everyone else safe, otherwise hell the hell are we going to stop this virus from spreading. Many people dont believe in the virus even though thousands are dying.
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                        • Jania S
                          WHY, R they on the street, I have family in the forces, and we only see them when there are emergencies,... THERE IS NO EMERGENCY, So why are they on the streets, and will they obey the Australian constitution as prior 2020 or obey the idiot premiers?
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                          • Joanne D 188999 NZ
                            Would you rather people stay safe or get the virus and die ?
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                          • Mary M 329762
                            Because they want us have no freedom
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                          • Margaret C 68385Mary M 329762
                            I want the freedom to travel without getting this disease that you and your ilk think in your pea sized brains, doesn't exist. I suggest you do a shift in an ICU somewhere!
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                        • Smiley
                          I don't see a problem with it. I feel that if you're not doing anything wrong, then you have nothing to worry about. The Police and ADF are here to help us.
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                          • Lones
                            I have family in the military, and I hope they will be ok serving there country we do humanitarian work everywhere. And we should be able to wear our uniform and be proud of it. But sometimes others don’t agree, but like the Police the military are serving there country, please be respectful and do the right thing, I don’t want to be in lockdown forever and miss my family and life
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                            • Beverly I
                              Yes for having the army in Australia to help the police to control the crazy people over there
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                              • Jacqueline R 353303
                                If there were peaceful protests we would not have to call in the Army & extra police, so sad. Bet the crims are having a wonderful time whilst the police are occupied = know juvenile crime is up especially in Brisbane! North Korea is another story can't be compared to our situation here.
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                                • Joe B 288252
                                  There is a difference to an army patrolling the streets and the army acting in conjunction with the civilian police to maintain order. It’s an indictment on a country when it has to resort to this
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                                  • Luke W 72035
                                    Yeah they are there to help the stretched police force. They aren't about to start killing civilians. I don't feel good about either it but lets try to be rational.
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                                    • Greg B 520364
                                      It's a shame that they are needed. But the minority must be heard
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                                      • Jennifer H 396811
                                        There aren't enough police to control the idiot tin hat brigade so the army needs to be brought in to assist - nothing wrong with that
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                                        • Keith L 485431
                                          Hear! Hear!
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                                      • Julie 330321
                                        THIS IS A PANDEMIC EVERYONE TOWS THE LINE ANDTHEN THEREBIS NO NEED FOR HEAVY HANDED INTERVENTION OUR CIVIC DUTIESare one for all and all for one where has a sense§ of community suppoRt commitment to each other
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                                        • Stephen F 84899
                                          The army is needed. There are too many people not towing the line.There are always some people who defy the system
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                                          • Claude H
                                            North Korea lead by fear
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                                            • Mary M 329762
                                              This is Australia now. Fear on peopes
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                                          • Peter B 231413
                                            The Army does what it is told by the government. They are servants of the country and of it's people.
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                                            • GRAEME W 313058
                                              Should always be visible on the streets
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                                              • KARL-HANS B
                                                Shure if that is needed to keep the people at home good on it
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                                                • Sonya F 68771
                                                  at the moment yes during the day to stop these people doing the wrong thing i just want to get out of lockdown sick of it
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                                                  • EILEEN W 310556
                                                    We are being forced into protecting the majority of our population from the selfish ignorance of the few who believe conspiracy crackpots, phoney doctors and the plain ignorant, who believe that their stupidity will make them immune. Reason and the renewed outbreaks and deaths caused by Covid demand we have to bring in the troops to fight those who are prolonging this pandemic.
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                                                    • APB
                                                      Put Gladys under house arrest....Put Dan in charge of the NSW government ..instigate a real and full lockdown...and fix her terrible mess before the whole Country has to live with what she has done.....the Wicked Witch of Sydney...SOMEBODY PLEASE drop a house on her.....
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                                                      • Christine M 323842
                                                        It’s too late. Gladys has made the decision on behalf of the entire population of Australia to let this thing run free. Just the sight of her big schnozer every morning on the news gets me going for the day, and not in a good way.
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                                                    • Therese M 73305
                                                      Alot of old people would feel safer especially at night
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                                                      • Jenny L 591463
                                                        I think each country has a right to deal with CO Vid out breaks as they see fit. Who are we to judge? I am glad the Army, Air Force and Navy are helping our exhausted Police Force. We all know why we need a Police Force. We live by rules and people who break those rules get punished. Hopefully if they can be caught. Flaunting the rules is not right and we can not trust people to do the right thing. People can not stay home when they are supposed too.
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                                                        • Paul J 94868
                                                          Our army are on the streets,without guns,performing a civil service. Any comparison with what may or may not be going on in North Korea is a bit of a stretch i would have thought...
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                                                          • Linda C
                                                            A "bit" of a stretch. Nothing like North Korea or many other countries
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                                                          • Paul J 94868Linda C
                                                            Yep...
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                                                          • Mary M 329762
                                                            North korea may have more right then Australia
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                                                          • Linda CMary M 329762
                                                            Are you kidding me.
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                                                          • Paul J 94868Mary M 329762
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                                                          • Linda CPaul J 94868
                                                            I agreed with you Paul. It is a huge stretch to compare our two countries. As for Mary M saying North Korea may have more rights than Australia - yeah right.
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                                                          • Paul J 94868Linda C
                                                            Linda,i think we are both on the same page...Not sure where Mary M is getting her info though...
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                                                          • Linda CPaul J 94868
                                                            Too many people these days with skewed ideas usually taken from social media
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                                                          • Paul J 94868Linda C
                                                            Yep...
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                                                        • Flower
                                                          Absolutely fine by me. I'm abiding by the current health orders and staying home, I probably won't be seeing them. Lock up the rule breakers and throw away the key I say or perhaps put them to work cleaning in our hospitals.
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                                                          • Linda C
                                                            Don't want them in our hospitals as many are Covid positive.
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                                                        • Sheree T
                                                          They wouldn't be out there if people were doing the right thing. I cannot believe people can behave in the way they are in Sydney. They have very little regard for there own health and absolutely none for anyone else's health. As for North Korea, that is there business.
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                                                          • Linda C
                                                            And now Melbourne have had a few hundred out and about protesting the lock down and of course some will have the virus, spread it and extend the lock down. I am so over these idiots as that is the only polite thing I can call them. If they have the virus and spread it to a person who dies - charge them with murder.
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                                                          • Sheree TLinda C
                                                            Yes I understand exactly what your saying. My husband and I were having a conversation the other night over gentleman who came into Queensland he had the virus and spread it and my husband said knowing that he spread it and if someone gets it and dies he should be charged with premeditated murder. And maybe that is what it is going to have to come to.
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                                                          • Mary M 329762
                                                            North korea has no covid-19
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                                                          • Linda CMary M 329762
                                                            None reported but that country only reports what it wants to. If it has no cases I would be surprised. Must have locked down and restricted travel from the first if there are no cases. Would like to know the truth about this as this country seldom if ever reports anything it does not want out.
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                                                        • Colin L 88398
                                                          The army is not trained or equipped to control their citizens they are only trained and equipped to kill people so I don't want them on the streets unless they are taking out the rat bag Anti Vaxers and other idiots who are complaining that Covid isn't real and ignoring the Health Directives and spreading it around to others who otherwise would never have caught it.
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                                                          • Linda C
                                                            What a biased statement. Our army has helped in many humanitarian instances when we have had fires, floods etc. here in Australia and also overseas.
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                                                          • Michele W 394946
                                                            'only trained and equipped to kill people' . . . what are your sources?
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                                                          • Colin L 88398Linda C
                                                            OK then tell me what their training is and how it has changed since I did my Basic training? Even in Rwanda it was more important to have Ammo than Medical Supplies and the unit that went there took their Ammunition at the expense of Medical Supplies mainly because the UN was resupplying them with no solid Time Frame for that resupply and the need to defend themselves at the expense of everything else was paramount. Now just explain to me where in their training that Army does Crowd Control and if they do why do they have weapons with Live Ammunition? Even in the recent fires the equipment supplied tot he Army Air Wing started a fire when it landed in long grass and other than the equipment that they have for airfields to launch their air wing from they have no fire fighting equipment Sorry but the above is not Biased it is FACTUAL..
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                                                          • Linda CColin L 88398
                                                            Rwanda was a war zone. NO. 1. I would think our boys would have weapons for self defense there. You left out the fact that other needs were air lifted in once it was safe to do so. The helicopter was an accident not malicious.
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                                                          • Colin L 88398Linda C
                                                            So the Hospital setup there was a War Hospital treating wounded solders is that what you are saying? The majority of their patients where locals all but killed by the other religion, even the dogs where savaging for what food they could find on the streets and that was mostly the dead humans. But regardless try explaining what Crowd Control the Cadets where taught when they where caring their Enfield 303's around and drilling? There was no crowd control or Peace Keeping training, that is just something that the Insane Politicians thought that could save a bit of money on by pushing the enlisted people into a use that they where never trained or equipped for. Never make the mistake that because a Politician decrees that the army do something that they are the right people to do it or that they have the training or resources to do it they are just forced to adapt and do the best that they can because some idiot Pollie thinks it is a good idea. Next you'll be trying to say in Afghanistan that instead of going in armed to clear a village of the enemy they walked in with bright lights flashing and asked them to go away and there was never shot fired. Even in the Solomon's a very recent "Peace Keeping" role the medical center was better armed than the supplies for the doctors and nurses. The guys in uniform are not trained to do this they are just forced into it by foolish pollies who don't have a clue what they are doing or asking their people to do and because of who they are they can never question the Orders that they are given. It's never a "GOOD IDEA" but it is cheaper for the pollies so the ARMY gets to do something that they have to MAKE UP AS THEY GO ALONG and hope for the best knowing full well that if anything goes wrong tit is their necks on the line not the fools who sent them there with no idea of what it is that they wanted done.
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                                                          • Mary M 329762Colin L 88398
                                                            i agree
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                                                          • Linda CColin L 88398
                                                            You quote times the army went into hostile environments. This country is not in a hostile situation. The army is being used to deliver food, equipment maybe, health, and do border control which is looking at documentation. They are not standing there with guns in hand. Maybe not trained to do these simple tasks per se but then neither am I and I am sure I would cope quite well doing these jobs.
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                                                          • Christine M 323842
                                                            I’m with you Colin. Throw everything at em.
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                                                          • Colin L 88398Linda C
                                                            No they are not trained or equipped to do those things it is what you have a Police Force for. If the feds want to throw people at NSW or anywhere let them send Federal Police who have a better chance of knowing what it is they need to do and how to do it the Army is not the people to send.
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                                                          • Colin L 88398Linda C
                                                            OK then Linda C what exactly can Army Personal do in NSW today? They have no authority they can only accompy Police Officers and do nothing else. If they where in the city of Sydney yesterday when they had the Demonstration they can not arrest anyone, they can not legally pull a clown off a Police Office who is being attacked and do anything, they are not allowed to do anything at all except Intimidate people as they go around with a Police Officer so 2 do not need to be together at all times while on Duty. If some idiot was to start blasting away with a Pump Action Shotgun through a door at a Police Officer the only thing that the Army person can Legally do is run away, I'm assuming that they have been instructed Not To Get Killed like anyone else but the reality is they can DO NOTHING. They are there to free up NSW Police so they can effectively double their presence on the streets and judging by the fiasco yesterday they need all the help that they can get, BUT if you are going to give them HELP give them someone who can do something useful and REAL not just to stand around to be another TARGET for the Wacko's. The Army Personal deserve something much better than that.
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                                                          • Linda CColin L 88398
                                                            They are backing up the Police and Health workers relieving the Police of work so they can deal with the protestors and people not staying in isolation etc. Fact. They are not there to arrest to repel our citizens. Fact. They are there to deliver food, help with vaccinations, look at border control documents again backing the police. Fact. They are relieving the police of duties which take then away from the police work required. I think you will find the army personal were nowhere near the demonstrations yesterday. I never saw any on the news did you?
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                                                          • Colin L 88398Linda C
                                                            Yes that is the claim that they where not trained to do. It is also a fact of life that when something goes wrong they are not empowered to do anything at all. Is this how you think people who volunteer to defend this country should be treated? The chose to put themselves in Harms Way if needed and then grab them and put them into a situation where they have no training or power to do anything at all is unacceptable.
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                                                        • claire w 171953
                                                          It's fine they just making sure everyone is safe
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                                                          • Bugalugs
                                                            Its OK if they are used even handedly across the State during this pandemic but they aren't. NSW Premier, Gladys Berejiklian - herself a child of refugees, in typical current Neo-fascist Liberal Party style, is deploying not just the Army but the NSW Police as well, heavily in Western Sydney, and area which has a very large proportion of "Not-Quite-White" and most certainly mostly Muslim immigrants, former Refugees yet she has not deployed and of them in the more affluent Eastern Suburbs - where this current outbreak originated, Since 2007 Australia has been cursed with 4 appalling Prime Ministers: Rudd x2 times, The Liberals Tony Abbott and now Scott Morrison to which must be added the Premier of NSW - she, like Morrison, does not like to be asked awkward questions and throws a tantrum when ever she is faced with the nasty truth about the way she has handled the Covid19 & Covid- Delta outbreaks.
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                                                            • Linda C
                                                              Agree with some of your statement especially about Scott Morrison and Gladys who arrogantly ignores all the necessary requirements from dot 1 and won't do anything until it is out of control in that area which is like shutting the gate once the horse has bolted. However, I think the reason more are deployed in the Western Sydney area is because they are not staying indoors, having parties, etc. It is stated they do not understand English but I find that a weak excuse. They understand it very well when it is beneficial to them. As for the so called affluent Eastern Suburbs, I think you read or listen to too much propaganda. There were police who got them indoors, fined them etc. and they eventually complied finally and got that message where as the other suburbs still flaunt the necessary requirements of masks, staying indoors, no gatherings etc. It is obvious by the numbers of cases rising each day and where many are from. Perhaps a breakdown will help people understand the reasons.
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                                                            • Mary M 329762
                                                              She needed step down put a nice person. Always a way to make peoples do things without a army.
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                                                          • Gaza
                                                            The Army is in the streets of Sydney because of the stupidity of a minority of idiots that will not obey the laws of common sense. No other reason.
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                                                            • Lyn 78550
                                                              I, personally, think that it is good. They need to be occupied more at home. Also, if people only did the right thing there would be no need for this. Unfortunately, they are not! You can either try and keep people under control or suffer the consequences. As far as North Korea goes this is a whole different story there. They use their army for different reasons!
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                                                              • Mary M 329762
                                                                Not a good idea. Talk some one came from a war zoom you under its better
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                                                              • Priscilla R 316016
                                                                While ever they are patrolling without arms, I see no reason for people to be scared. They are just there reinforce what the government in NSW has asked them to do.
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                                                              • Lyn 78550Priscilla R 316016
                                                                This is so true Priscilla. Take care!
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                                                              • Lyn 78550Mary M 329762
                                                                I can see where you are coming from but I have not lived under this Mary. We are not really living under this here imo, they are just re-enforcing the police. Take care!
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                                                            • Helen D 547877
                                                              I think it is a good idea and our defence forces should be used more at home.
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                                                              • Tina C 394339
                                                                I think it is good in Australia, As there are far too many people still on the streets for no reason during lockdown.
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                                                                • Elizabeth J 447888
                                                                  They are performing a varied range of duties, including delivering food packages. I cannot imagine the army in North Korea performing that duty.
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                                                                  • Mary M 329762
                                                                    North korea army will not act like Australia did
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                                                                • lulu
                                                                  Police are out numbered they need help so ok. Korea well when in rome
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                                                                  • Mary M 329762
                                                                    I see police walk around all day doing nothing just booking peoples for money. They not out numbers
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                                                                • Maria B 89860
                                                                  What a question! What a "State of Affairs" to be compared to! But most of all what a lucky person who has not experience such tyrannical rule and are free to dare to think and openly pose such thoughts! Careful you don't end up in a museum of rare species.
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                                                                  • Lyn 78550
                                                                    Well said Maria!
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                                                                  • Maria B 89860Lyn 78550
                                                                    Thanks, Lyn hope it makes sense and most can read between the lines.
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                                                                  • Lyn 78550Maria B 89860
                                                                    I am sure that most people can Maria. We cannot be the only sensible one's on here. lol. Take care!
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                                                                  • Mary M 329762
                                                                    I think its is
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                                                                • Beverley S 383001
                                                                  If all people obeyed the lockdown rules there wouldn't be need of extra law enforcement. So sad for NSW friends who are doing the right thing but are subject to more and more lockdown.
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                                                                  • Lyn 78550
                                                                    I agree with this Beverley. It is a sad state of affairs when people just do not do the right thing and the people who do are suffering.
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                                                                • Larry S 382961
                                                                  better to be catching morons who won't abide by the health rules than going to fight in a war they cannot win .they are getting paid when others have no job, no money. what else would they do. sit in the barracks all day playing cards
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                                                                  • Andrew T 123623
                                                                    There would not be army/police out and about enforcing the guidelines if idiots follow the rules that has been set down. But they thing the rules don't applies to them and the Covid 19 is a it's all a conspiracy issue so the government can restrict their moment. The outer thing said here about North Korea if you cannot tell the difference between them then you are an idiot and just get out and break the rules.
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                                                                    • Sandra C 12043
                                                                      The Army has been used in other times of need in Australia and hasn't led to greater power for them so why should this time be any different. In times of need the Army has always come to the fore to help in times of flood, earthquakes, Bush fires etc. Sounds like scare tactics to me.
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                                                                      • Leanne M 293000
                                                                        Essential to stop ignorant, selfish fools who think it's okay to ignore lockdown orders. I'm all for the boys and girls in khaki and blue doing their thing in Sydney!
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                                                                        • Lyn 78550
                                                                          Well said and so true!
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                                                                        • Priscilla R 316016Lyn 78550
                                                                          Agree
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                                                                      • Lorraine F
                                                                        When people don’t follow the rules to keep us all safe there has to be a force whether police or army to make sure everyone does the right thing in this climate. Our situation can hardly be compared to North Korea.
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                                                                        • JANN R
                                                                          THEY HAVE TO BE THERE FOR THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE WHO UP HOLD THE LAW AS A PROTECTION AGAINST THOSE THAT DONT
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                                                                          • MoB
                                                                            I don't think we need the defence force to be on the streets of Australia. What I most worry about is that all these new regulations will not go away once COVID is controlled, it will be around forever as the flu is. State governments here are pushing us towards a more controlled way of life. The left have already rid us of the larrikin, which is what we were known for around the world. Bod Hawke and Paul Hogan were probably the last of them. If that was easy it will be easier still for State governments to rid us of a lot more. It seems that Australians are prepared to give everything up because they have been indoctrinated to believe this all keeps them safe. When they wake up it will be all too late. I am not a right wing conspiracy theorist just someone who has seen this happen to many countries over my lifetime.
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                                                                            • Mary M 329762
                                                                              I agree with you
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                                                                          • Skip
                                                                            A great idea, the ADF are here to help us. Should have happened much sooner. Some people have no regard for the law.
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                                                                            • JANN R
                                                                              I agree with you Skip it is the way we have to be at the moment
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                                                                          • David C 471262
                                                                            it's what the soldiers are doing and how. I don't think the oz army will be shooting the local populace
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                                                                            • Pat B 169666
                                                                              good idea as we don't have enough police to do it
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                                                                              • Mary B 492108
                                                                                Yes someone has to protect the people from idiots
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                                                                                • Vicki M 118804
                                                                                  Yes, it's necessary. This is about saving peoples lives. It's only essential because there are too many idiots who don't get or care about the severity of a pandemic. Here the army are serving to protect. And remember that this is probably not what they necessarily want either or what they signed up for. They are a necessary evil for which I am grateful for. This is very different to North Korea. Their it is about creating an atmosphere of fear and control to keep a cruel government from losing it's power and taking from the people for purely selfish reasons.
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                                                                                  • Mary M 329762
                                                                                    Just like Australia its became like north koran next they will send to camp to be killed
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                                                                                • Roslyn A
                                                                                  Can we trust that the soldiers are here to help us, not take over us with a military coup? In Australia of course we can trust our army! In North Korea, not so sure....
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                                                                                  • Linda C
                                                                                    Our soldiers are helping in times of need as usual and have done so many times over many many years. No guns on them so only using their numbers to deliver food, help where necessary, etc. They are not marching in jack boots or anything and everyone saying stupid idiotic things regarding them being on our streets should be ashamed. They will not take over in a military coup.
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                                                                                  • Mary M 329762
                                                                                    No you can't trust them somethings they planing the government. Its not good. They say army in a village mean war
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                                                                                  • Mary M 329762Linda C
                                                                                    my grandparents had the same the army gave food next they take her land. Ask someone how being in war.
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                                                                                  • Linda CMary M 329762
                                                                                    Well that may have happened in your country and I am sorry that this is your experience but do not confuse that with my country.
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                                                                                • Chosen
                                                                                  Maybe , just maybe, North Korea is just a slightly bit different to Australia in how it is run.
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                                                                                  • Linda C
                                                                                    What an ignorant thing to say
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                                                                                  • Mary M 329762
                                                                                    North korea has now more rights them Australia das
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                                                                                  • Linda CMary M 329762
                                                                                    Well perhaps you might prefer to live in North Korea but I certainly would not.
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                                                                                • Lachelle B
                                                                                  I'd rather have them around than not.
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                                                                                  • david s 68234
                                                                                    3 CHEERS TO THE AUSTRALIAN DEFERNCE FORCE 3 BOOS TO DICTATOR DAN IN VICTORIA.
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                                                                                    • The dog house
                                                                                      North Korea do not have rules on how to treat people. Women soldiers are forced into marriage with an abusive partner to vent his frustrations on her. Here if they are abusive they will have to go to trial plus they are not carrying guns. At least from what I can see. Many women are used and abused in many Countries. The taliban want young unmarried women so they can marry rape and abuse them. They are another type of soldier no one wants around.
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                                                                                      • kristian s 513441
                                                                                        I think they should be on street in order to keep everybody safe from terrorist attacks.
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                                                                                        • Sue2
                                                                                          We had them on the streets here straight after the February 22nd earthquake as there was a lot of looting going on.
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                                                                                          • Paula D 17598
                                                                                            Ridiculous. Too much control over our lives to the point where our lives are not our own anymore.
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                                                                                            • Mary M 329762
                                                                                              I agree with you
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                                                                                          • Elizabeth H 165879
                                                                                            It is unwise- it is another possible way of transmitting the disease.
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                                                                                            • Elizabeth T 396096
                                                                                              They are on the streets randomly in Australia because of the virus. People are not fololwing the rules of non travel, isolation etc so they have been called in to help police it. We do not have army on the streets normally.
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                                                                                          • PETER M 134659
                                                                                            MUST HAVE THESE CAUSE OF MY COMMENT BELOW
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                                                                                            • PETER M 134659
                                                                                              MADNESS AND IRRESPONSIBLE IDIOTS
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                                                                                              • Anneliese
                                                                                                For covid yes, helps keep people safe because people have proven time and time again that they can't follow simple rules or think they are special and above it all so the rules don't apply to them. I have friends in both the police and armed forces who have had to help control and patrol. If it keeps it from spreading and people from dying then that's fine. North Korea is a whole different situation. When I was a child I went to Europe and went to and through a lot of communist countries that no longer exist today. There was army everywhere, it was normal. But you knew very well when you were a in a communist country and when you were not. Also unlike Australia you don't see guns all the time. In places like the Philippines for example it's normal, you go to the mall, you walk through security checks and metal detectors just to enter the mall, then some of the shops inside will have armed guards with guns, banks too etc. It's just the norm there, you get used to it.
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                                                                                                • Elizabeth T 396096
                                                                                                  and it is these people who are usually infected and are further infecting others and spreading the disease and making the lockdowns longer and tougher and more frequent.
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                                                                                                • Mary M 329762
                                                                                                  This will be normal no freedom
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                                                                                                • Mary M 329762Elizabeth T 396096
                                                                                                  no its the government has the power if they want to stop its. If they do nice way
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                                                                                              • Carolyn H 319412
                                                                                                Not sure. I think it is to do with Covid-19.
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                                                                                                • Mary M 329762
                                                                                                  Me too. I hear that from someone else. Is because want a police state or else?.
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                                                                                              • BLACK LIVES MATTER
                                                                                                In four more months - covid19 will be two years old. Enough time has passed - (in theory) that more police officers should be hired (on an ongoing basis) too deal with civil unrest due to covid19! However, there are enough ARMED police officers (in the USA) to stop the spread of covid19. Anyway, the law is ONLY exercise against minorities (in the USA) - more (armed) police HAS NOT stopped the spread of covid19 or crime!!
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                                                                                                • Debbie C 147795
                                                                                                  Common sense do the right thing you won't have the army on the street something wrong if the army is called in
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                                                                                                  • Mac
                                                                                                    Good job, NSW needed this a couple of months ago. Get the idiots spreading this virus off the streets.
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                                                                                                    • Alex H 487498
                                                                                                      If they have to bring the army in to make sure people comply - then dam well do it
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                                                                                                      • Shirley H 391879
                                                                                                        During this pandemic when people are not doing the right thing I accept that the police are undermanned and need help
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                                                                                                        • Frank N
                                                                                                          I would prefer that they had adequate numbers of Police in the first place. They don't here in New Zealand. If the Police need back-up, then the Army could play a role.
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                                                                                                          • Richo
                                                                                                            we have the Army to protect us , so why not use them to protect us from this BUG and the few morons that keep spreading it
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                                                                                                            • Nola B 392757
                                                                                                              If you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear in Australia. Here's a thought..why don't you go up to anyone you see, in any uniform, and thank them for their service and for keeping you safe!
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                                                                                                              • Lyn 78550
                                                                                                                Well said!
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                                                                                                            • 'smee,SWQ!
                                                                                                              It is OK to have it in Australia as they are not shooting anyone but trying to protect them but not OK in North Korea as they are there to intimidate and even shoot people!
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                                                                                                              • Mary M 329762
                                                                                                                Next Australia army will do tge same
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                                                                                                              • 'smee,SWQ!Mary M 329762
                                                                                                                Not in my lifetime Mary!
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                                                                                                            • Rhonda D 522615
                                                                                                              Only need the army in the streets when there is total chaos and disruption. If people are shooting guns and/or looting, then yes. But daily----NO.
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                                                                                                              • Linda C
                                                                                                                They are being used to help in many capacities. Delivery of food, vaccines, health, border control etc.
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                                                                                                              • Rhonda D 522615Linda C
                                                                                                                Border control? Food delivery? They are worth more than food delivery. Except for the impaired and elderly.
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                                                                                                            • Disie
                                                                                                              We need them in NSW. Not enough Police to help with the high rates of transmission
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                                                                                                              • Elizabeth T 396096
                                                                                                                It is sad they have been needed only because certain people think they are special and the rules don't apply (or shouldn't apply) to them and these are the people that are usually spreading the diseases
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                                                                                                              • Priscilla R 316016
                                                                                                                Spot on, Disie
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                                                                                                              • Mary M 329762
                                                                                                                I see walk around doing books peoples doing nothing
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                                                                                                              • DisieElizabeth T 396096
                                                                                                                Maybe if the state was locked down properly, people would understand h=what they can and can't do. Victorians are old hands at this, but NSW have never done it, so the teething probs we (Vic) went through 18 months ago, NSW are having now. Maybe she should speak to Dan. ;)
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                                                                                                            • Linda C
                                                                                                              Firstly look at our service men and women - no guns. Armies in other countries have machine guns and have done for many years. Our army is on our streets to support the police numbers to try and keep people safe as the idiots will not isolate, wear masks, etc. If everyone did the right thing immediately we would all be on the streets ourselves now but no they have to carry on like fools. Most people are doing right but when I go shopping I see so many with their noses uncovered. Yes they are wearing masks but useless unless nose is covered as this is where the virus comes from more so than the mouth. Or you see people who will not wear masks and get upset when they are told to put one on or leave. They have no respect for anyone and just want to be full of themselves and their stupid ideas.So am I upset with the army on our streets - NO. I thank them for once again doing a job to help keep Australians safe.
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                                                                                                              • Mary M 329762
                                                                                                                I'll onces know a man oversea in the army they don't have a machine gun on them. You watch to much movies. They walk like us.
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                                                                                                              • Linda CMary M 329762
                                                                                                                No I have been to all these countries and more and have witnessed it first hand. I even had a gun pointed at me once so experience is what I am quoting.
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                                                                                                            • Robert T 597718
                                                                                                              AS AN OLD SOLDIER NO
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