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On And Off Ramps
lisa 1490612Oct 09, 24
Has anyone found out that the on and off ramps are supposed to be safe for all individuals who need to use them to help them on and off without getting hurt but if they are built like a slope, they become unsafe for them, especially downtowns. The people who built on and off ramps should at least have a pole or something people can grab a hold of to help them step up and down if they come across any of those on and off ramps, which aren't safe. Do you agree?
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  • IdentifyAs
    You would have thought there is some sort of standard to make these ramps safe
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    • Priscilla R 316016
      Yes - agree fully.
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      • Amber 22
        yes i have neary triped up on a ramp that was serpost to make it safe for people to use
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        • Dolan 1467056
          so as to not be a jerk, but just a question - Ms lisa do you have a ramp at your home and have a pole or something to grab onto. I see no difference of home or downtown to be able to maneuver safely! Very difficult to install things to fit everyone and some things are Government regulated, so go from there .....
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          • APB
            sorry you failed
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          • lisa 1490612
            im refering to when your out of your home and no i dont but i wish i do
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        • Roslyn A
          It becomes difficult to make everything for everybody
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          • Levi 1580324
            I agree with Judy T 470524
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            • Manel 1271300
              Yes! A rail would be helpful for those who find it difficult to climb steps. Some ramps have wheelchair access, so someone 😀can help them
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              • Judy T 470524
                Some of the ramps at city businesses are far too steep and dangerous for wheelchairs.
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                • Wendy 1573078
                  this survey needs to be ramped up...ramps are awesome
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                  • Edith v
                    .I have used always have had a grab rail
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                    • Catalina
                      Yes.
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                      • Paula J 395266
                        Ramps aren't designed for people to walk on but rather for wheelchairs. I did need them once when I was confined to a wheelchair after breaking my knee and didn't experience any problems. I didn't find handrails useful because they are too high so decided they were for the people walking down the stairs.
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                        • Pat C 618241
                          Which is all well and good now but who knows when my knees or feet will need those ramps so I can negotiate the ramps!
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                          • Pat C 618241
                            Luckily I can still use my feet to walk both up and down ramps.
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                            • Allen M 1199636
                              Yes
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                              • Greg B 520364
                                Ramps in Australia Must have a hand rail and not be over 12 degrees. So that the handicap in wheel chairs can go up and down safely.
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                                • Rosemary E 383382
                                  That ramp has got too severe a slope on it for both disability equipment and for people with special needs. It needs to be longer and have rails on both sides. I wonder if there is any on the side of the stairs that aren't visible.
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                                  • Jim T 1006669
                                    In Australia the slope must be no greater than 1.8 Metres in 8.00 Metres
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                                    • Timtam
                                      As an ex Occupational Therapist many ramps are not actually great for ambulatory people. Often they are too steeply inclined. Plonking in a ramp which is not the correct gradient is just as dangerous as stairs. One's centre of gravity is thrown out of whack both going up & down. Can't speak for anywhere else but Australian does have building standards around ramps. Some builders are not on top of disability standards and simply don't allow enough space for ramps to be the correct length to get the gradient right.
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                                      • Timothy N 929266
                                        In Australia there is legislation as to the safest degree for ramps
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                                        • Carol R 766556
                                          In the United States, handrails are required on both sides of ramps with a rise greater than 6 inches.
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                                          • Jack M 393074
                                            Yes but being out here in the stix of upstate PA, very few ramps are around here. I am 75 and still have no problems w/ mobility.
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                                            • Larry S 382961
                                              Even now councils are installing grey tiles on footpaths and are dangerous when wet. Some new buildings seem to be magnets for smooth tiles that are slippery
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                                              • Reva D
                                                Some ramps when snows can be slippy not safe for anyone yes rails helps but also need straps keep from slipping when wet or snoy
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                                                • Steffani 1380000
                                                  I totally agree, a rail should be on both sides, as more than one person that needs help could be on eachside. It is not just older persons, but younger set also.
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                                                  • Sonya F 68771
                                                    I think some ramps are not safe
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                                                    • Wendy Q
                                                      Also ensure that they don't become slippery when wet.
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                                                      • Fay 1566870
                                                        Us I agree they should have something to hang onto
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                                                        • Shawn B 1061185
                                                          Yes, I agree. I understand that here in Ontario there are regulations that dictate the angle ramps are supposed to be to ease their use for the mobility needs.
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                                                          • Bugalugs
                                                            Just after the end of World War Two a huge number of English migrants arrived in Australia, they, rightly, gained the reputation for being a bunch of "Endlessly Complaing, whinging Poms". Nothing was right, nothing was good enough, having travelled 10s of 1000s of miles to get here, did they really expect everything to be like it was in England? If they did they were incredibly stupid. Australians learned their lesson extremely well for they have now become, in addition to being the Fattest, Most Unhealthy nation on Earth the Bigeest Whingers! No matter how much businesses try to make things easier, more accesible it is never right, there is always something to complain about. We can't expect the politicians to do anything because if there are not lots of Votes in it for them they do Nothing. We had a family member who was confined to a wheelchair and, yes, some of the ramps weren't quite perfect but all we had to do was keep an eye out for any small faults. It would seem that Aussies are not tghe only whingers, it seems that the Americans aren't far behind. The World, people, is not perfect, it never will be just deal with it and stop complaining all the time.
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                                                            • TUBZY
                                                              yes
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                                                              • Caitlin 1391142
                                                                Yes Agree
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                                                                • Sherriann 1580211
                                                                  Yes, that is a good point. They should have something to grab onto a rail or a bar.
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                                                                  • Ann 1498966
                                                                    I haven't thought a lot about that, but I do live in a senior apartment complex and there are short ramps from the parking lot to curbs and they seem to be very smooth. There is also a long-slopped section of walkway there they did install a railing recently.
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                                                                    • Jan H 753322
                                                                      I find some of the ramps have a lip and I almost tipped my mum out of her wheelchair because it caught as I tried to push her up. I am on crutches at the moment and some of the ramps are quite steep
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                                                                      • Izabelle 1457992
                                                                        Yes! My city is full of those lips, on sidewalks and ramps.. I've fallen many times and a senior friend of mine recently fell and smashed his face all up! But sueing the city for something like that is hopeless! A few years ago they went around and spray painted many of the lips on uneven sidewalks with bright orange paint so we can at least see them coming.. but fir older, younger and disabled people it won't help much
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                                                                    • Sandra 1575376
                                                                      I do not agree, I think it's a matter of choice. It works
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                                                                      • Robert T 597718
                                                                        Yes you are right Lisa these can be dangerous
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                                                                        • Vidya 1577202
                                                                          I can say depending on personal choices thank you .may be like prams and wheel chairs who can walk they choose stairs
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                                                                          • Matt Black.
                                                                            I live in Bali (Indonesia), here the on ramp is a great place to stand blocking off access to the ramp while taking photos of yourself and sending them to all your friends.😇 The off ramp is a lot more useful; this is the place to stand planning the rest of your life. Again, it is a good tactic if you can block the ramp off completely making sure that no one else can use it.👎
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                                                                            • Cathie G
                                                                              Yes i have seen some ridiculously steep ramps
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                                                                              • Paul B 522937
                                                                                they are mainly for people in wheelchairs
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                                                                                • GRAEME W 313058
                                                                                  Yes definitely a t least a hand rail for both ways and non slip treads
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                                                                                  • Ronnieboy82
                                                                                    I use ramps at my house, there was quit an argument with the person in charge of erecting them and the Occupational Therapist, they wanted them steeper and I KNEW what incline would be best for me. I WON and I think they WON with the cost they charged for having it put in.
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                                                                                    • Jania S
                                                                                      NO I dont agree. I have seen an unsafe ramp. Where doyou live. In Australia ramps have to meet legislated safety standards and they are really strict about it.
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                                                                                      • allin
                                                                                        i live in the country, my on ramp is dirt, and only 2 people get on/off it
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                                                                                        • Joy L 68767
                                                                                          some are not safe at all. I use a walking stick and have a bit of trouble getting the knees to move some times, some are built at such a steep angle it is easier to use the stairs. I don't know what it will be like when I eventually have to go up some in a wheelcahir
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                                                                                          • Jenny L 591463
                                                                                            This is just a little thing I have done today for my hubby well it's actually for both of us in a way. I looked up how to make bake-able play dough as I wanted to get a print of our pets paws. They are looking so cute and I had green dye and red dye. This would make the cutest Christmas gift and if small you could add a hole at the top so people could then put them on their Christmas tree. Inexpensive and a gift to last a life time. Get creative and if you have cookie cutters you could make lots of different shapes too. Great activity for a rainy day with the kids/ grandkids. Hope this is helpful and every one tries it. I am wrapped in ours and I wanted to do our old boy's print before it's too late because he's nearly 16, time was of the essence maybe. Was messy but worth it and found putting down baking paper helped and then I have baked the prints on the paper too. Just make sure a pet doesn't eat dough because it is very salty. Enjoy and have fun.
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                                                                                            • Jenny L 591463
                                                                                              Don't bake for an hour as mine burned a little and there was still 8 minutes to go. If I do it again one day I will bake for 45 minutes. Just a hint if some one else tries it and may depend on if fan forced too I guess.
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                                                                                            • APBJenny L 591463
                                                                                              off with fairies....
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                                                                                            • Jenny L 591463APB
                                                                                              Why not had nothing else to do and it was some thing special and fun to do. I enjoyed doing it so I shared it.
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                                                                                          • Paul R 936022
                                                                                            There are regulations. Such as for every 1mtr in height to go the ramp has to be 12 mtrs in length, it doesn't have to be straight though
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                                                                                            • Jenny L 591463
                                                                                              I thought all ramps needed a hand rail but then I guess councils and building codes are different to per country and states. My parents have steps going down to the park out the front and they had to have a rail for the bottom part but not the top so any way Dad has put a rail up just so Mum has some thing to hold onto. Any one can fall down stairs, I fell down ours not that long ago. I was trying to turn the sensor light on for our dog who more than likely didn't need it on and went crashing down onto the concrete and grazed my knee. Ow I was sore for a few days afterwards. Public ramps are of course needing to be more secure as if people fall people not all may sue whom ever the ramp owners are sadly.
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                                                                                              • Andrew C 287196
                                                                                                Usually it's a problem of space. Many wheelchair ramps have been retro-fitted to existing buildings that weren't designed to have a ramp. Some places install a little elevator, but those often break down, and is usually a case of throwing good money after bad continually repairing it. It's not just wheelchair ramps though. There's a public walkway between two streets near me that is ridiculously steep, and can get very slippery when wet, with only the fences of the houses on either side to hold on to. Whichever City Council idiot agreed to that idea needs to be sacked. It should have been steps or simply not put in a walkway at all (it's only a couple of minutes and far less steep, to go the longer way round!).
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                                                                                                • Mary M 329762
                                                                                                  I don't know who designed this ramps up. They needed test out by someone how used its to see if ok. How do this design go in if not safely at all
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                                                                                                  • Wheelie Girl
                                                                                                    Im a paraplegic so im in a wheelchair and my experience with ramps are they are not many that are 100 per cent safe. They are either to steep or have a lip at end. My electric chair is unsafe on steep ones and my push chairs tend to tip. But i guess its better than some places having no ramps at all so i cant even get into those places and you would be surprised how many dont. Next time you out and about take a sec and you will realise because until you in a wheelchair you dont realise.
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                                                                                                    • Grommie
                                                                                                      the pictured ramp I'd defy most wheelchair bound people to run up it.
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                                                                                                      • Peter H (ACT)
                                                                                                        some of the ramps/slopes are terrible and I need to hold onto the railing OR sometime cos of my disablity I need to walk up the ramp backwards
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                                                                                                        • Carolyn K 714554
                                                                                                          I need a rail to get down a slope or I can lose balance.
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                                                                                                          • Claude H
                                                                                                            Fully agree
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                                                                                                            • JANN R
                                                                                                              Yes I agree with you but the ones I have seen are mosty for wheel chairs so they dont have a step up
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                                                                                                              • Tupulua S
                                                                                                                I know buses have a on and off ramp they carry for wheelchair people and the drivers job is to put it on
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                                                                                                                • writerrochelle
                                                                                                                  I know from experience that if a Veteran needs a ramp at his/her home, there are specific measurements they have to go by to get it permitted. I've only seen ramps at loading docks, so I'm not familiar with ramps, except on base!?! They are really rough metal with holes in them! ;-D
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                                                                                                                  • boy blunder
                                                                                                                    my brother had one built in his backyard for his son .it cost him 15,000 and took up a fair portion of his backyard, it was built over 3 days under the specs of the NDIS, and it has the correct slope of incline which is about 5% or 1.12 inches, some of the ramps I've seen, as in the picture look much greater than that and I would hate to see someone in a wheelchair try and access that slope alone, I think cost has a lot to do with inappropriate ramps and people just throw things together to come up to code but who checks the code, if you are going to do something/anything do it right not half-arsed
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                                                                                                                    • Frank K 593543
                                                                                                                      Agree wholeheartedly especially when you are handicapped.
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                                                                                                                      • Robert 1580127
                                                                                                                        I truly agree
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                                                                                                                        • nancy b 1002224
                                                                                                                          Yes, it is scary to use some of those ramps-often designed by well meaning, but not getting it, people.
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                                                                                                                          • Dragie
                                                                                                                            Yes
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                                                                                                                            • pam rae
                                                                                                                              HM, HAVE SEEN BUT WITH NO POLES
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                                                                                                                              • Judy 1514577
                                                                                                                                yes
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                                                                                                                                • Qween13
                                                                                                                                  Agree, I’ve seen some that are loose that won’t hold anyone up if they were to use them.
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                                                                                                                                  • Val 1394045
                                                                                                                                    Yes poles would be a great idea
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                                                                                                                                    • Liane H
                                                                                                                                      Yhey also need to have anti slip markers on them for when it rains on the ramps for people coming down . Even a few stairs can require a small handrail for those with sore knees or unsteady on their feet .
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                                                                                                                                      • Morenita
                                                                                                                                        I hardly noticed
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                                                                                                                                        • APB
                                                                                                                                          Rails on BOTH sides for slopes...AND handrails both sides on staircases too...it is obvious common sense and most of the time its just not there...well done lisa! ...the picture above shows clearly how NOT to do it....we have designers who know all this...why don't they use them?...to save money...and we wait till somebody get seriously injured or dies before we fix things....
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                                                                                                                                          • Robert F 1161011
                                                                                                                                            The ramp is for wheel chairs, dollies, trolleys and carts. I use them all the time, but my hands are busy pushing or pulling carts or wheel chairs, so a hand rail wouldn't be necessary. People on foot always take the stairs, but I usually see hand rails on ramps anyway.
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                                                                                                                                            • BLACK LIVES MATTER
                                                                                                                                              I always take the stairs!
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                                                                                                                                            • APB
                                                                                                                                              NO...that is what YOU think its for...and you don't have problems in your inner ear with balance...once you lose those fine hairs in your inner ear...even in one of them..your ability is severely challenged...your brain has to take over all of the balancing...and its a big job...PEOPLE need those ramps too....and they need handrails because they cannot balance.... ..a lot of people are grateful for it...honest.... trust me
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                                                                                                                                            • Robert F 1161011APB
                                                                                                                                              you're correct. I made a point of observing all of the ramps and stairs during my travels yesterday and every ramp that I'd noticed had safety rails on both sides. They have to, otherwise people would be falling, or rolling off the edge.
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                                                                                                                                          • Linda C
                                                                                                                                            They always have railings. Never had a problem with any ramps I have used or have had to use for someone else. Never seen a ramp you had to step up onto or down for that matter.
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                                                                                                                                            • APB
                                                                                                                                              wait till you cannot balance..I would not wish that upon you...honest
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                                                                                                                                          • Teri 1282723
                                                                                                                                            Aren't those hand rails part of the structure? I've seen steep ramps and/or no ramps but never ramps with no railing.
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